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Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Would be great if I could get some more reviews/comments, and if people checked out the build videos.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "PATA Optical Drive Distortion Issue"

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Here is a link to my build

I'm using a Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming, Ryzen 7 1700, and my OS is Win 10 Pro.

I was just attempting to use the native WMP and save the files as lossless WAV.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Original Lian-Li Pentium IV Build

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Not sure if anyone will see this, as this doesn't seem to be a build that has any interest for anyone other than folks who like to see ancient builds, but I'll give it a go:

Is there any market at all for the old parts in this machine (other than the case and the DVD/card-reader drive)? I ask because I don't want to throw these working parts away.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Beige! That is what I meant. Not sure why I couldn't think of the word. Also, I said "usb router" but meant "usb hub."

As for the Pentium 4 and ATI Rage, I removed all of the old stickers that referenced the old hardware. So, unless you knew the age of the case, or saw the original build, how would you know it was a sleeper? is it being called that because of the link in the description? Do you think I could get more interest in this build if I changed my title to call it a sleeper?

Having said that, now I have a name to an interest I've recently developed...putting new hardware into old cases. If I had more time and someone wanted to pay me some money for it, I would just mod old cases and create builds for them all day.

Thanks for the feedback.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. You are the second person to call this a "sleeper" build. That is an odd reference to me, probably because I am old and have been playing with computers since the 80s. To me computers were never intended to be anything but tools to accomplish an objective. It was only in the 2000s that you really started to be able to get cases in anything other than that off-white or grey. It was also only in the 2000s that computers started to live anywhere other than in an office or home-office (i.e., you never had them in your living room). Apple got us to think as computers as something other than appliances, and I think Gateway brought us the living room PC. Anyway, I wasn't really going for a sleeper so much as wanting to make use of some of the stuff I have lying around! I do like the clean look of this machine, which is part of the reason I don't plan to put back any of the old drives (that and the fact that this Mobo doesn't have any IDE/floppy drive ports).

After getting this together I realized that I need a desktop USB 3.0/3.1 router to connect external devices to. Maybe with a built in card reader since we still record a lot of video to SD cards.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 7 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. I did check out the link, and I hunted around on Amazon, too. There are lots of options, but I haven't yet made a decision. If I were super-good at it, I would just build my own cables and have the right length from the start.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 7 months ago
  • 2 points

Interior pics uploaded today. Let me know if these are ok or if you want something else. I had planned to take photos with it on, but forgot. The only visual difference would be the LED on the CPU cooler, though.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Modern Ryzen 7 Build in Class Lian-Li PC-60 Case

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

Coming soon.

Comment reply on Jeff_Az's Completed Build: Original Lian-Li Pentium IV Build

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

It has 2.5 GB total memory. Two 1GB Crucial DDR-333, and Two Corsair 256MB PC-2100.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks to all who made suggestions and comments. I have purchased my parts. I went with Allen_M_Systems' suggestions, with the one exception that I went with Corsair memory. Also, I ended up going to eBay for the CPU, Mobo, and video card because that's where they were available for prices consistent with the build (e.g., the CPU was $30 higher on Amazon than listed in the proposed build, but an eBay seller listed one new within $1.00 of the listed price). I managed to stay right in my budget for the new parts (CPU, mobo, memory, ssd, video card), and adding in the cost of parts I had already purchased, my total budget is about $1350. Should be pretty nice when I get it done.

Comment reply on PCPartPicker Blog Post "Announcing Cycling Builder"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Where's the "duplicate/transfer login creds" button? :-)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the explanation. It has been a while since I have paid this much attention to what is going on in the component industry. I will read up on the RAID. My primary reason for wanting it is to protect against hard drive failure. I get that a good external backup will help, and also that a mirror RAID mostly favors a server environment where being able to hot swap drives and get a speedy backup without down time is valuable. I suppose it is mostly a personal bias that leads me this way because (a) external back ups haven't always worked for me in the past, and (b) I find that with the denser data storage in modern large hard drives they seem to be far more prone to failure than in the past. But you have given me much to think about, and certainly having JBOD would give me more speed than mirroring and a TON more storage. If I go with an external solution, I need a truly fast transfer rate (USB 3.1 may be up to the job) and/or compression (which introduces its own problems for data integrity). If you have suggestions for a resource for me on that as well...I'm all ears.

When I think about it now, I recall having an issue with my current Gigabyte board with dealing with a failed drive (or what seemed to be one at the time). I did replace one of the drives and I think I struggled to get the RAID controller to work correctly afterward. I may have encountered some of the issues you describe and not realized it.

Patriot, Corsair, G.skill, Kingston, ADATA, etc.... None of these companies fabricate memory. These are just re-sellers/brand-names who run a marketing front-end with limited involvement in actual production of memory. The memory chips are all either Samsung, Micron, or Hynix. These "memory brands" just arrange packaging, marketing, heatspreader design, and in some cases, final assembly of components fabricated by other major suppliers. There's not a meaningful difference in quality from one to the other.

Right. I think it was that historically Patriot was on the cheaper end, while Corsair and Kingston were on the higher end, and that the former used a lower quality memory chip. But that was years ago and things change.

Re: the different CPUs...your response was what I expected. One of the concerns I had with this build was having four of us streaming four different movies off the computer at the same time and having buffering issues or other problems as a result. I considered looking into a Supermicro board and older Xeon processors; I wonder if the only reason no one has suggested this route is that my budget is too low for it?

Thanks for spending so much time to educate me. Part of the reason why I REALLY like this site/forum is that it gave me access to a brain trust to help speed my learning curve. I can read in books or online about different specs but that won't necessarily give me feedback on real life experience with particular use. Plus, I find it really hard to find any in depth discussion about the issues I care about (online) by the various zines. Everyone is focused on gaming, which I'm not doing. I was worried about overspending and still not getting what I need.

I have several editions of Upgrading and Repairing PCs, but the last edition is still probably at least a decade old. Those books are great for the detailed explanation of how various parts work and interact with each other, but tend to be out of date when they hit the bookstore shelves anymore!

Last night I was educating myself a bit about M.2. Because of the design I was concerned that my case might not be wide enough, thinking that it would stick out perpendicular to the Mobo. But I learned that it mounts parallel to the mobo, so the primary space issue is whether it will interfere with other devices (e.g., video cards) for its mount location on the board.

I wonder about cooling, though. I have an SDD that I swapped into my work computer and it seems to work fine, but I've never opened the case to see how hot it gets. I see that some boards have the ability to use the SDD as additional memory (kind of a super-fast page file) and I wonder with the additional load if there have been issues with solid state drives overheating? As close as an M.2 mounts to the mobo I was thinking there might not be adequate airflow, esp on the side facing the mobo.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I actually have a pair of 4TB drives. I thought I had only bought 1TB. I think I have a couple of 1TB drives too. Both are new/unused, and I have a bunch of other drives available as well (used- old backup drives). As far as back up is concerned, I understand the limitations of RAID. I am only speaking to the computer build. External drives for back ups are something I will cover separately.

As for RAID controllers, my old Mobo has a Promise RAID controller built onto it. So it is hardware based. I was thinking of the same for the new mobo. Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying?

Can you tell me why you chose the Ryzen 7 vs Ryzen 5 2400g/Ryzen 3 2200b choices from the other posts? Do you think I should be looking at a higher core count instead of higher processor speed?

I am surprised by the Patriot memory recommendation. I was lead to believe Patriot was down market memory and to shy away from it for applications where stability is important. It looks like the price is the same as the DDR4-2666 Corsair memory selected in another build. Would you go with Patriot over Corsair? If so, why?

What I like most about your build is the number of SATA ports and a mobo that will run m2 without consuming a SATA port (via PCIE). My case has space for 7 3.5 drives and 4 5.25. So you are giving me the options I wanted in terms of expansion.

BTW, I already have a NIB EVGA SuperNova p2 80+ platinum 650w ps. Some people were including a ps in their build but my plan is to use this.

Thanks.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Re optical drive: I was only planning to keep it long enough to upload music and video files (i.e., Music CDs and DVD movies). Someone suggested buying an ATA-SATA converter. I considered that but the cost is nearly the same as a new SATA optical drive. I may have a better solution. I have several external drive cases. I may just move one of my drives to an external with USB capability and connect that way.

That has the added advantage of leaving me with additional drive bays and I can get the old optical drives out and clean up the look (one is white face and the other off white/grey, while the case is brushed aluminum.)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Just to clarify, the ide drives are all 40 pin ultra ATA. I said 80 in a reply. Not sure where that came from.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok more questions: I plan to stuff a bunch of HDDs in this machine for long term storage. You selected an SATA SSD instead of using the M.2. Is there a reason? Does the M.2 on this mobo take up a SATA port regardless?

I was looking at M.2 drives but it seems there is much more to it than just size. I saw multiple WDBlue with different price points but I don't know why.

Is there some resource other than mfr media hype that gives detail on parts operation? It seems like you have just been doing this forever and have amassed a ton of knowledge as a result. Thanks again.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I have one other ask that isn't in the budget but that I want as well (I.e it is something I would acquire in addition to the computer build). I need some way to convert old camcorder vhs-c tapes to digital. Looking for hardware and software suggestions for that. Or???

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Interesting. Have to explore the specs, esp on the mobo. I like that the mobo is rgb free. How easy is it to upgrade cpu/memory later? How hot would this run? What would you say this setup would be weakest at in terms of my intended use?

Thanks for the help.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Home server multi-use"

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Optical drives are 80pin IDE. Mostly will be used to upload CDs and DVDs.

Lian-li case is a PC-60 USB, I believe. Can't find any label on it anywhere. I have the original receipts but everything is at work. I can update later. It is a mid tower case. I don't know how to upload photos to this forum. Otherwise I would post a picture.

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