Haha about 5 years by now I think. I'm thinking about getting an XL one someday. I'm actually surprised this one lasted this long.
Yeah I was actually looking at what people did with similar parts and ended up at yours that way! Thanks, I hope you enjoy your pc!
Looks good! You haven't gone overboard yet haha. The ram clocking issue is probably due to the slots you used yeah. It should be indicated in your manual.
Haha I was wondering the same
Zip ties are your friend haha. Maybe I'll see you in Eve then ;)
How is the GPU doing? Seems like an extremely powerfull GPU. And watercooled. Must overclock like a beast.
It's rare to find another Eve Online player. Awesome build dude, cable management may need some love haha. I have a Samsung 970 evo plus as well as a boot drive which is awesome.
Thanks! I should have thought of that.
Thanks! Oh it is an old monitor, it is about 8 years old? I have added a LG32GK650F as my main monitor which is an 1440p 144hz monitor. I'm using the old one for stuff like spotify!
You nailed the theme! Looks great.
No problem, have fun building!
Thanks! I only had a minor inconvenience with the RAM. When enabling the XMP profile, the speeds didn't show up as increased but later during tests it showed to be working at the advertised 3200 speed. Has worked perfectly since.
You used this ram right CMW16GX4M2C3200C16?
You used this ram right CMW16GX4M2C3200C16?
Yep, used that. Checked my box for you :)
Thanks! Yeah I figures positive pressure in the case would be the way to go! And a test looking at fan setups determined this was the best setup for cooling too so win-win.
Thanks! I appreciate it.
You currently have a high end CPU but a medium GPU. I would advise you to change to an AMD 3700X and maybe a 5700XT or a 2070Super. And yeah you forgot a PSU haha.
Sidenote: the 660p can slow down horribly when it gets fuller. May want to invest in one that doesn't slow down as much.
I'm glad to hear it! I just ordered the LG 32GK650F, will update when it's arrived and on how it performs!
Thanks for your reply! I am assuming you are talking about the LG 27GL850? I found a review by Linus Tech Tips --> here. It is indeed bit more expensive than I would like but does seem really good.
My games are usually not fast paced enough to justify going TN so I should probably go IPS or VA. I think I will be going for the LG 32GK650F which is a VA panel. A review by Hardware Unboxed shows decent response times and colors/contrast with some adjustments. It is also quite affordable at 379 euros. --> LG 32GK650F Review
So currently I am looking at the Dell S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor. I was wondering if my pc can manage 1440p at 144hz or if I'm overspending if I buy this monitor? It also has G-Sync but not sure how important that is in reality. It's a bit over budget but has great reviews and specs which is why I am considering it.
EDIT: Another option I am considering is the LG 32GK650F. It is a bit bigger, but same 1440p at 144hz with a little slower response rate of 5ms. Also perfectly on budget at 400 euros.
Oh I get that haha. I put a Kraken X72 on mine which is probably big overkill. But future proofing, higher ambient temperatures and aesthetics made me do it.
Seems quite decent. Not sure if the cpu cooler is better than the one you get with the 3700x but seems like a build that will do well.
Ah sweet! Did you figure out what you want to do as final partlist?
So take what I send you here with a grain of salt as I only just build my first gaming pc but I had fun making a list. I don't know if you're still reading this topic anyway but here goes.
Things to note:
-The 660p is a very budget NVME SSD and slows down extremely if you fill it too much. If possible get a second SSD in a few months and keep the 660p lightly filled. Or if possible, you may want to upgrade to a better NVME which doesn't slow down as much.
-I didn't add any RGB but you could easily add this later on with some extra money by changing the fans for RGB Fans, RGB Strips or go for a set of RGB RAM.
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But performance wise 3600 is still a bit better I guess. Will think about it. Thanks btw!
I've run into a problem while trying to order my parts. The Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory are impossible to get at the moment in my country and it is unclear whether they will be available anytime soon. Other RAM sticks with the same speed (3600) are all 50% more expensive or even double. Should I consider downgrading a bit to lower speed? The tests only show a minor difference between 3600 and for example 3200 but 3600 is the sweet spot according to AMD.
EDIT: At this point I could also get 32 GB of RAM with 3200 speed for the same price as 16 GB of 3600
That's what I meant
That's what I meant
Ah my bad. Yeah that's too bad but think I will stick with the 360mm AIO for now for the ambient temperature and yeah looks.
Hmm I've changed the 660p to a 500 gig 970 Evo. I will then add the 1 TB 860 Evo for additional storage.
Thank you for the advice! Will start buying parts today and will post the completed build with photo's here on the site.
-Well I would like to OC but from what I've seen the new Ryzen CPU's don't do very well with that. Having barely any improvements? I'm not sure if this can still change and if it will be ever worth it? But guessing not. (Other reasons for excessive cooling below, in other comment)
-That's good to hear, the X Trio seems to have great cooling and very quiet. With some overclocking it should come pretty much at the same level of a 2080.
-I've heard some of this but it's a bit of a difficult concept for me. So I should be switching back to a regular SATA SSD? Working with large data sets is not unlikely as I work in medical research. My original plan was to never fill the 660p above 50% and get another SSD in august(money reasons). I can put down a little bit extra though if I should buy an SATA SSD now.
I think I will be using the pc for some work stuff too, running statistical programs. So the extra cores may be helpful (I think).
I figured the x72 kraken may be overkill but I put it in for a few reasons.
-The pc will be stationed in the top floor and it gets quite hot there in the summer(35C) so I want the utmost cooling (may still be overkill but I'm not sure what else to do). I can't move it elsewhere.
-Provide proper exhaust for the 2 sets of 3 fans intake.
-Complete the aesthetic of having 3 sets of 3 fans top/side/bottom.
The 2080 Super will most likely be more than sufficient. I can't say 100% ofcourse, until they actually come out and we see some benchmarks. But considering the power of 2080, the improved version is probably fine.
The RTX 2080 super is supposed to launch at the 23rd and at $699 msrp. I don't know if there's a rush and a specific purpose for your pc.
The reason I looked at the Lian-Li 011 dynamic is partially due to this by the same reviewer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RkwBXaYQA
The reason I picked so many fans is this by HardwareCanucks
The cooling seems good but it is going to be loud.
I think the Meshify S2 is a fine case but as mentioned in the vid, nothing special. This also made me consider the be quiet! - Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2. Which performs similar to the Lian-Li but the case isn't much quite than the Lian-Li and even more gigantic, which is okay.
Other alternative maybe the cooler master H500P Mesh?
By the way, I do want to go for a full tower for easy installation as I am new at this (with overly large hands), for good airflow and room to expand. Thank you for the informative vids, they do help me understand the concept of how it should work!
My current list.
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Hmm the black one is tempting as well. I recently adjusted my build for the Lian-Li 011 Dynamic. But with having to buy a bunch of fans, it's a lot more expensive but is quite good at cooling (I think). Would the black one hold as well?
I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks!
Do the X570 power delivery issues mean that I should be waiting to buy the moba? Or is it something that can be fixed with drive updates or something?
Ehm, I'm not sure what is meant with CL17?
Yeah exactly. I also heard that it wears out more quickly than higher end models. Which is why I am considering to use the 660p for booting windows and 1 or 2 games and then buy a separate SSD for storage?
Hmm I'm quite likely to fill it up decently with games/movies/photo's. I may decide to get another regular SSD for storage to keep the 660p as empty as possible.
I'll consider that. I do really love the looks of an AIO but may downgrade it a bit to save some money. The Antec Mercury 360 (RGB possible) is pretty affordable and still decent.
Also I am failing to quote your stuff the way you do.
> quoted text Just the CPU and Motherboard (either a X470/X570 mobo). All else is fully compatible!
> quoted textIf you do end up sticking with intel for overclocking advantages, i'd wait a little longer to see how well the the AMD chips compare with overclocking potential. Also for a gaming CPU, the i7-9700K is more than sufficient hence i'd give the i9 a skip.
The problem I currently have with the i7-9700K is that they did not put in hyper threading which makes it perform a bit sad and the 8700 seems very comparable.
> quoted textYes faster boot times for the OS, applications and games. Although the difference here is a small advantage in real-world noticeable performance unless you're transferring large files on the go or writing to the disk in large volumes to make use of the x3/x4 sequential R/W speeds. The great benefit here being, even-though your particular workload may not fully utilise the NVME SSD's superior performance the cost of these units justifies the purchase.
Huh then it is definitely something I will do. 1 TB should be fine for a while and the motherboard I selected even supports 2 of the NVME SSD's.
Definitely a 2070 super then. But yeah will wait for the release of the NAVI cards, just to be sure. Hmm if those new AMD processors are really that good it may be worth going AMD, would need to swap motherboard too then. Anything else I would need to take into account? I'm not sure if the compatibility changes for any other components.
I did want to make my build able to overclock. I wanted to start with the regular speeds, then educate myself on overclocking and do it on a later stage.
Huh I thought the NVME SSD's would be more expensive than that. Do they only increase boot up speed or are they faster in use after boot up too? Does this impact gaming in any way?
Seems like the 2070 Super is a good deal and better value than the original one. So yeah think this will be my final build. Thanks for the help!
That's pretty good then. I have also added an upgraded version of this build below. About 60 euro increase but gives an upgraded CPU and RAM.
With some tinkering, I upgraded both the CPU and Memory a bit. It only has a slight increase in cost and still is beneath the 1800. However, the Video Card would be replaced by the Super variant of the 2070 but this one isn't registered on the site yet.
Is this build still good/better?
That's probably a good call. I may want to go for something a bit flashier though as long as it is still functional. From what I understand the Lian-Li - PC-O11 Dynamic pretty much fits that. As long as the funky way the intake fans are set up doesn't limit the intake.
Thanks for the tip about the super variants!! I found a short review which he will expand on later this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdYeCVHi1I
I am indeed looking at 1440p and beyond so then the 2070 super would probably be best(also budget wise) but what you said about AMD's line up makes sense. I will want to see how well their Navi cards do and their new CPU's as well before I can make a full choice.
Thanks for clarifying air vs water cooling. I definitely prefer the AIO look so probably will go for that. It just looks cleaner to me. I haven't looked into overclocking yet, will do so in the upcoming days.
Thanks for your extensive reply!
I'm a little worried with that case whether I will have enough room for enough regular fans after installing the CPU cooler as the one I was going for is pretty beefy.
Also, now looking at the new super editions of the RTX 2060/2070 and indeed the 2070 makes more sense with the budget.