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Enthusiast Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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131 Comments
NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

This high end build features a black and red theme. As such, you'll find numerous part choices have been made to achieve this aesthetic. If black and red isn't your thing, feel free to use our Colors filter to select parts with different colors

At this budget, we're running an i5-6600K. This quad-core CPU features an unlocked multiplier for easy and often significant overclocking. While not all games will benefit from overclocking, games like Overwatch can benefit significantly from a faster CPU. Overclocking can also help your CPU stave off obsolescence for a good while longer.

All of that being said, if you're not comfortable overclocking, you can save money by stepping down to an i5-6600, removing the non-stock cooler, and going with a cheaper H170 motherboard. If you do remove the CRYORIG R1 cooler from your list, note that the i5-6600k does not come with its own cooler, and you'll have to add one. The i5-6600 does come with a cooler. As mentioned above, our selected cooler is the CRYORIG R1 Ultimate. It's a beefy, high-performance cooler and keeps with the black and red theme.

We have five black and red motherboards that allow overclocking via the i5-6600k's unlocked multiplier. Each includes 4 DIMMs for up to 64GB of RAM at several overclockable RAM speeds. They also include some basic expectations like a USB 3.0 header. They all have 6 SATA 3.0 connectors, while some are shared with a SATA Express as well. Additionally, SLI/Crossfire is an option down the road with these boards, though you'll want to make sure your PSU could handle multiple GPUs if you go that route.

For memory, we're filtering for the best-priced 2x8GB kit of black and red DDR4 RAM. Feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to see the various options and pick a color that suits you. With how fast RAM is these days, aesthetics will likely matter more to you than the negligible performance difference faster RAM provides in gaming. We're also taking a sparse selection of roughly 1TB SSDs that have proven to be fast, and we're including a filter for the most inexpensive 3TB mechanical hard drive. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities to your heart's desire.

Our GPU is the very popular GeForce GTX 1080. This is currently one of the fastest single GPU video cards in the market - you may want to look into a 120-144Hz and/or 2560x1440 resolution monitor for this bad boy. The parametric filter is set for the best-priced 1080 available, but feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to browse our listing of 1080s. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1080 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

All of our parts are housed in the NZXT H440 Matte Black and Red edition. In addition to rounding out our black and red theme, this case features a tinted window, 2 front panel USB 3.0 ports, and 2 front panel USB 2.0 ports. It has excellent cable management, a plethora of hard drive mounts, and if you'd like to mount a radiator, you'll have a variety of options. It also has a nice, red PSU shroud at the bottom to keep your build looking clean. In addition, silence is a focus with the NZXT 440, so there is a significant amount of sound dampening foam included on the panels. Be warned that the foam will decrease clearance behind the backplate, so chances are the cables will push into the foam and leave marks. Fortunately, it's in a place that no one will actually see. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

Powering the build is a sparse selection of some of the most well-reviewed PSUs available - all without breaking the bank. All of them are certified 80+ Gold and either semi-modular or fully-modular.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 392W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU £201.54 £201.54 Aria PC Buy
CPU Cooler £88.20 FREE £88.20 More Computers Buy
Motherboard £99.96 £99.96 Ebuyer Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
  • Color: Black/Red, Red, Red/Black, Red/White, White/Red
£102.60 £102.60 Aria PC Buy
Storage £260.90 FREE £260.90 Alza Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 3TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
£77.48 FREE £77.48 CCL Computers Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1080
£472.90 FREE £472.90 Alza Buy
Case £98.99 FREE £98.99 Scan.co.uk Buy
Power Supply £75.90 £5.90 £81.80 Alza Buy
Base Total: £1478.47
Shipping: £5.90
Total: £1484.37
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

vagabond139 5 Builds 4 points 7 months ago

This is currently the fastest single GPU video card in the market

Uhhh Titan XP.

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 7 months ago

o.O

Legacy text. Sigh. Thanks.

CorruptKamikaze 2 points 7 months ago

So question for the staff member since I'm pretty new to the whole PC building scene. Is there any reason to go any higher than an i5-6600k for a gaming build? I'm not rendering footage, streaming, or using any other high demand processes (aside from running a heavily modded Skyrim). From what I have read and seen, an i5 should handle everything I want to do but I just wasnt sure if an i7 would be something worth investing in for future games coming out like Battlefield 1 and the Skyrim remaster.

CorruptKamikaze 1 point 7 months ago

Thanks. I really appreciate the link. I think I will be going with the i7 just because of how fast technology falls off nowadays. Im pretty privileged in the fact that my budget is quite a bit larger than most so investing in the future seems to be a good plan.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Keep in mind that the i7's performance isn't that much better than the i5's. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6600K/3502vs3503

RavenGrey 2 points 7 months ago

I think he's referring to how an i7 will remain relevant for a considerable time longer than i5, just as Sandy bridge i7's are still quite good today.

LemonComputers 0 points 7 months ago

I don't see how an i7 would stay relevant longer than an i5 since the performance difference is rather minimal if you're comparing within the same generation though...

LemonComputers 1 point 8 months ago

For the HDD, I see that the parametric filter's criteria is that the drive spins at 7200 RPM. I understand the intent of filtering HDDs down to only ones that spin at 7200 RPM (and not 5400 RPM) and that 7200 RPM HDDs are usually faster than 5400 RPM counterparts, but in this case the 5400 RPM WD Blue is actually faster than the 7200 RPM HGST Ultrastar 7K3000. http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Blue-3TB-2015-vs-Hitachi-Deskstar-7K3000-3TB/3522vs1373

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks for the info. I'll take it into account in the future.

LemonComputers 1 point 8 months ago

Also, any plans for some NAS / HTPC / rendering / workstation type of build guides? Or build guides that aren't built around the parametric filter? Thanks.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 8 months ago

Also, any plans for some NAS / HTPC / rendering / workstation type of build guides?

Yep!

Or build guides that aren't built around the parametric filter?

We just use the filter where appropriate. Prices change far too frequently over time, and both prices and stock change greatly depending on country. Parametric filters are not a perfect solution, but it's better than static parts that are bound to be beat, often very quickly, or even immediately in certain countries.

LemonComputers 1 point 8 months ago

Yep!

Nice, how about some builds with color themes like red and black, blue and white, white, black, yellow and black, yellow etc. and so on? Edit: I just noticed that this is a red and black build.

We just use the filter where appropriate. Prices change far too frequently over time, and both prices and stock change greatly depending on country. Parametric filters are not a perfect solution, but it's better than static parts that are bound to be beat, often very quickly, or even immediately in certain countries.

That makes sense to me.

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 8 months ago

This is a build with a red and black color scheme :)

We rotate through color schemes occasionally. At least on the higher end builds.

Phoenix4137 1 point 8 months ago

So I was wondering, there are some missing things in the guide, like an optical drive, windows operator, etc. I'm not an expert on this, but like where did those items go or it's unneeded

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 8 months ago

Optical drives aren't necessary anymore. You can install your OS with a flash drive, and most people don't use physical media for their PCs these days. That being said, there's nothing stopping you from adding an optical drive yourself, so long as the case you choose supports that.

No OS is included for a variety of reasons, but the main one is that it's outside the scope of the guide/part list. This is strictly about the hardware in the box (and the box itself).

Phoenix4137 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks very much

The_Great_Revanchist 1 point 7 months ago

If you REALLY need an Optical Drive...Take the one out of your old/spare PC :P

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

No, that won't work because the NZXT H440 case used in this build guide has no external 5.25" drive bays and therefore has no ODD support.

MannyPCs 1 point 6 months ago

You can always buy a separate DVD drive from Samsung or LG

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LemonComputers 1 point 8 months ago

So I was wondering, there are some missing things in the guide, like an optical drive,

Optical drives aren't used very much these days and many cases, including the NZXT H440 used in this build guide, are retiring ODD support by removing 5.25" drive bays.

windows operator, etc. I'm not an expert on this, but like where did those items go or it's unneeded

Well Windows is kind of a matter of personal preference (although it could also be argued that the whole box is a matter of personal preference). For example, most people think that Windows 10 is the best, but I don't like Windows 10 because of all of the tracking and I just prefer Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 instead.

Phoenix4137 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks very much

LemonComputers 1 point 8 months ago

Here's my version of this build guide:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $219.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler -
Motherboard *ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99 @ Newegg
Memory *GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $61.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $218.20 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.44 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card $459.89 @ OutletPC
Case NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $109.99 @ Directron
Power Supply *SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1358.37
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-30 20:00 EDT-0400

Changes:

  • Changed the expensive Cryorig R1 Ultimate CPU cooler to the less expensive but still sufficient Cryorig H7 CPU cooler. It appears that your last version of this build guide used the H7, so perhaps you switched it to the R1 Ultimate since the H7 is currently out of stock?
  • Changed the PNY CS1311 SSD to a smaller but faster Samsung 850 Pro SSD for less.
  • Changed the 7200 RPM HGST Ultrastar 7K3000 HDD to an in fact faster 5400 RPM WD Blue HDD for a little more.
  • Changed the lower end GTX 1080 video card with a high end GTX 1070 video card. (I mean the Asus TURBO video card is low end for a GTX 1080 and the Asus ROG Strix is high end for a GTX 1070; don't take this as me claiming that the GTX 1070 in general is better than the GTX 1080!)

Overall, this build is slightly less expensive.

Isalon 1 point 7 months ago

Hey Lemon,

I'm considering this bracket of PC's as well, so I'm trying to keep on top of this tier and the one below it in the guides. I looked over this build and like it a lot more than the original guide build, nice work! But there's another build posted below. It's about 200 bucks more expensive, but aside from a little more hard drive space and an (arguably?) better GPU, I don't see much difference. A little faster on the RAM but I'm led to believe the speed increase is pretty negligible when it comes to gaming.

Can you take a second look at this build you've made, compare it to the build below, and tell me if it's worth spending the extra 200 and why? If the RAM is as negligible as I think it is, and the GPU isn't much better, and the hard drive space is something I obviously don't need then I'm thinking perhaps your build (as shown here) would be a better purchase for me for the long haul. When you have a moment please let me know your thoughts? Thanks!

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

I'm considering this bracket of PC's as well, so I'm trying to keep on top of this tier and the one below it in the guides. I looked over this build and like it a lot more than the original guide build, nice work! But there's another build posted below. It's about 200 bucks more expensive, but aside from a little more hard drive space and an (arguably?) better GPU, I don't see much difference. A little faster on the RAM but I'm led to believe the speed increase is pretty negligible when it comes to gaming.

Umm...this one?

Isalon 1 point 7 months ago

Right thread, but not the OP's build. I was referring to another build that was right above (or below, depending on your filters) your build. Essentially for the Enthusiast build, I'm doing a compare and contrast and I was specifically comparing/contrasting your build and the other person's build (again, not OP's, but another person in the thread) and asking your opinion on yours vs his. The bigger picture for me is comparing the Excellent build against the Enthusiast build, coupled with your build which is less expensive than the Enthusiast build. I'm basically comparing your build to the Excellent build and asking, "Is it worth spending a couple hundred extra dollars to get the extra performance, will it last significantly longer?". I suppose at the moment it's a moot point, but in a couple weeks I'll be making a purchase and throwing all this stuff together. I'm looking at it from an investment standpoint.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Then...are you referring to this one? If not, can you permalink the comment you're looking at?

Hwanjong0613 1 point 6 months ago

I just bought those parts......Do I need to buy Thermal Paste.....? And.. If I need it.. can you recommend me which one is good one? Thank you

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

No. While aftermarket thermal paste could improve cooling performance, the stock Cryorig thermal paste provided with the CPU cooler will be sufficient as is.

Hwanjong0613 1 point 6 months ago

Thank you for answering :)

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

No problem. You're welcome.

TeddyBear9 1 point 6 months ago

Hey LemonComputers, I really like how you re-assembled this pc build to be a bit cheaper. Using this build, what are your suggestions on selecting monitors and peripherals? (mouse, keyboard, loudspeakers, and headset)

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

What is your budget with peripherals included? Do you need an OS included?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.99 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard *ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99 @ Amazon
Memory *GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $64.98 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $216.02 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $88.24 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card $444.99 @ NCIX US
Case NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $119.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply *SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Newegg
Monitor AOC E2260SWDN 21.5" 60Hz Monitor $89.99 @ Directron
Keyboard Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $45.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1535.16
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-02 16:31 EDT-0400
TeddyBear9 1 point 6 months ago

What is your budget with peripherals included?

The selection you've chosen, I can not deny it. Seems to be a decent price for both keyboard&mouse and monitor.

Do you need an OS included?

OS included since I've been using Mac iOS for my whole life :P Thanks for your generous suggestions!

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

OS is really to subjective. Personally, I would choose 7 far before 10, but many choose 10. Just avoid Windows 8 (not 8.1).

SpazSpy 1 point 7 months ago

I'll eventually understand why people use the Gtx 1080 with the i5 6600k xD (Nah, I've never built a PC before, planning on building in less than a month now assuming no updates on desktop Kaby Lake)

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

I'll eventually understand why people use the Gtx 1080 with the i5 6600k xD

The i5-6600K is a very powerful processor and it's not very far behind the i7-6700K.

RoganMD 1 point 7 months ago

This build is very similar to my build that I have currently. It's a great build. I'd recommend some 16 gb for a total or maybe even 32 gb total RIPJAW DDR4 ram.

Mossflower 1 point 7 months ago

I thoroughly enjoy this build however in order to increase ram from 16 to 32 I had to move one of the fans off the heat sink (the thinks so damn big lol)

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 7 months ago

Sorry to hear that! It's not an uncommon issue with big heat sinks and big sticks of RAM. You can probably move that fan to the other side of the heatsink. Just make sure it's blowing in the right direction if you do so!

Mossflower 1 point 7 months ago

I wish I could you send you pics, I did end up moving one of the heat sink fans to the top of the case and made sure it was blowing downward.

One thing I'm just now realizing is that this mobo doesn't support SLI =/

jadin101 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

I'm starting to get frustrated with all the Cryorig coolers in the builds. I'm sure they are great, but unavailable in Canada and there's no real alternative other than the scuzzy 212 Evo. :(

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

There are plenty more options than Cryorig and the 212 EVO. Even so, you can contact Cryorig if you want them to ship a CPU cooler to Canada, although they aren't sold at retailers.

jadin101 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

By the time you take into account the cost of an h7, then the shipping and duties...I can throw a kraken into the build.

Just venting, as the last 3 builds with non-stock have specified Cryorigs

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

That's true, but if you really want one you can always have a special arrangement.

jadin101 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

I'm just asking for some variety...

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

I understand.

WirelessCables 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

1 month late, but what about something from bequiet! ?

Mossflower 1 point 7 months ago

The board does not support SLI, so this build does not allow you convert later on.

Folks actually recommend the K6 which does support SLI, apparently.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/SingleProductReview.aspx?reviewid=4720826

mayhemrules 1 point 7 months ago

It is generally recommended to have the best single GPU you can buy and upgrade as you go along.

zahir414 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Are the PSU cables mustard color or is it pure black?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

https://seasonic.com/product/g-550

Just black. The brownish color is only because the product image is extremely low quality. The actual power supply is black and its cables are black.

zahir414 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Oh thanks for the clear up, but i have seen some build videos with this PSU and the non modular part of the cable (the 24 pin cable) has mustard color at the end.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Which videos?

As far as I can tell from the cables specification page they're all black with tiny gold connector pins at the ends.

zahir414 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Sorry not build videos* but some builds i have seen in this site. Im sure it wont be an issue if i can custom sleeve cables

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Might just be photo lighting.

Mtib9 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Compare and Contrast this and the original: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $227.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler $46.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $130.99 @ NCIX US
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $69.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $156.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $119.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card $629.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $82.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1532.70
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-13 21:05 EDT-0400
LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Better but more expensive.

Mtib9 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Its 60$ cheaper how is it more expensive?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Whoops.

Mtib9 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Haha no problem I was a little confused at first though.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

My bad.

GlacialBreath 1 point 7 months ago

I would like to know, if i buy this build i do install the driver on the company website, for example gigabite? Since the case doesnt have an optical drive, am i right? And i also need to buy windows 10?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Yes, because this build doesn't have an optical drive and doesn't support one (even if you tried to add one). As for Windows, another option would be to purchase the USB version which does not require any optical drive involvement.

GlacialBreath 1 point 7 months ago

ok thank you very much.

GlacialBreath 1 point 7 months ago

and what windows 10 should i buy since there is alot of version

LemonComputers 0 points 7 months ago

What's your budget for an operating system? The Pro version has a few more features but most people don't need them so the Home is usually the best choice.

GlacialBreath 1 point 7 months ago

budget is about 2200$

grenadeh -1 points 7 months ago

Every build supports an optical drive.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Not true. Many builds use cases without ODD support, including this build.

clairelaliberte 1 point 7 months ago

Does this look good to you guys for a black-and-white theme 1440p144hz build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $227.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard *Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $104.88 @ OutletPC
Memory *Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $61.99 @ Newegg
Storage *SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $64.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage *Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.50 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card $575.00
Case NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $66.69 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor Dell S2716DG 27.0" 144Hz Monitor $450.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1720.02
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-20 16:53 EDT-0400
LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

You'll want to replace the mediocre EVGA SuperNOVA NEX power supply with something better quality like a PSU from the gray Corsair CXM series.

clairelaliberte 1 point 7 months ago

Really? I thought the EVGA PSUs were the way to go and Corsair was iffy.

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Nope. Both companies make both good and bad products. You can't judge a PSU by brand unless it's Logisys or Diablotek.

Joe1 1 point 7 months ago

Any monitors you could recommend with this build?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Budget?

Joe1 1 point 7 months ago

Under $250

SNiPpy_YiPpy 1 point 7 months ago

Does the ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard have a Wifi card? If not are there any recommendations for wifi adapters/ wif cards? Thanks

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

The motherboard does not have integrated wireless networking. For a wireless network adapter recommendation, please specify your budget.

omaredabed 1 point 7 months ago

Shouldn't x99 be a must for an enthusiast build? I know it's unnecessary, but that's what being an enthusiast is about, right?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

No. Just because it's an enthusiast build doesn't mean that it needs to run on the X99 platform, which supports Intel extreme/enthusiast platform processors. Those processors are good for multi threaded tasks, and the i5-6600K processor used in this build guide is sufficient.

omaredabed 1 point 7 months ago

But isn't sufficient not what enthusiast pcs are about?

LemonComputers 1 point 7 months ago

Enthusiast PCs are enthusiast PCs; they don't necessarily have to be very high end builds.

omaredabed 1 point 7 months ago

I guess you're right

Jbraz94 1 point 7 months ago

Hey, Im building my first computer. This is what I have so far. Would you mind telling me what you think and if you have any thoughts or suggestions. Thanks so much!

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TjfRVY

TeddyBear9 1 point 6 months ago

Since this is an enthusiast build, does it mean that it can simultaneously run both stream and game? For example running League of Legends and OPS at the same time?

AidenIron 1 point 6 months ago

yay i would not overclock pc

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

Why not? Just because you have an unlocked (overclockable) processor and motherboard does not mean you are required to overclock. If you don't want to overclock for some reason, you're not forced to overclock just because you're using an unlocked CPU and motherboard.

Urbantech-Kyle 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Don't buy this! Ok so this build is a nice one but overkill. Without a decent motherboard you pc will like have some shortages in the future. It does not need a 1080 but a 1070 would do. Also do not waste your money on a 960$ ssd when you could buy a 250 gb one saving all needed files on. The case is good but could be changed. Other than that maybe get a better cooling system for cpu because you will be clocking that very much. The theme is nice though and take some suggestions into consideration.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 6 months ago

Without a decent motherboard you pc will like have some shortages in the future.

The motherboard is more than fine. If you have information that says otherwise, I would be deeply interested to see it. You aren't going to see many motherboards that are actually unsafe for a build.

It does not need a 1080 but a 1070 would do.

Downgrading to a GTX 1070 is perfectly acceptable, but you can't dictate the performance desires of others.

Also do not waste your money on a 960$ ssd when you could buy a 250 gb one saving all needed files on.

Similarly to performance, you can't dictate the storage needs/desires of others. Neither can I. That's why I specifically call that out in the description.

Urbantech-Kyle 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Thank you for replying, I agree with the bottom 2 statements. BUT feel like maybe upgrading to a newer chipset would be a good idea.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 6 months ago

A newer chipset? Than Z170? Like what?

Urbantech-Kyle 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I meant the motherboard chipset LGA2011 - 3 instaed of LGA1151

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 6 months ago

That's a socket, not a chipset. You seem to be under some odd misconceptions regarding performance and quality. I strongly recommend you work on some further education about PC hardware before making suggestions to other people.

skulldriver101 1 point 6 months ago

meh... id say 6700k and a titan xp is more enthusiast than this. at least a 6700k.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 6 months ago

I wouldn't get caught up in the semantics of the word. It's always going to mean difference things to different people.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Sure, but an i5 is perfectly sufficient for even an enthusiast build and is almost as good as an i7. Also the Titan XP is a very, very powerful video card and IMO would be kinda overkill (too expensive).

grenadeh -1 points 7 months ago

Not bad other than the waste of money motherboard. Anything with fatal1tys irrelevant name on it is going to be overpriced by default. Also the "PCMR" stupidity of putting an I5 in an "enthusiast" build is hilarious. Just stop.

Actually for that matter a 5900 RPM mechanical drive? 5900? That's not even a standard speed for mechanical. The 20 dollars you save is not worth it - just get a real drive, a 7200 2 TB. You can easily find them on sale for $69.99 or cheaper. Enthusiast builds aren't about cutting corners.

LemonComputers 2 points 7 months ago

Also the "PCMR" stupidity of putting an I5 in an "enthusiast" build is hilarious. Just stop.

An i5 is almost as good as an i7 in performance, and there is NO reason not to use an i5.

Actually for that matter a 5900 RPM mechanical drive? 5900? That's not even a standard speed for mechanical. The 20 dollars you save is not worth it - just get a real drive, a 7200 2 TB. You can easily find them on sale for $69.99 or cheaper. Enthusiast builds aren't about cutting corners.

5900 RPM drives are generally somewhat slower but are still real HDDs.

Axiomatictor24680 -3 points 7 months ago

How come you people never add a keyboard or mouse and monitor. Trying to make the build cheaper than it is. We all know you need them. Especially for a gaming rig.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 7 months ago

Among other reasons, it's outside the scope of the guide. This is strictly about what's inside the box (and the box itself).

Axiomatictor24680 1 point 7 months ago

True, but I feel as if it a bit misleading. These guides are intended for people who want to build their own computer from beginning to advanced levels. People who are just getting into computers might not know what are good gaming peripherals to get. It would even help experienced builders on what monitors to get with proper resolutions, hz, and G-sync that their graphics card supports.

If someone were to purchase this build. They would be missing key components and their budget would increase to buy the missing parts. Overall good build, just my suggestion to help others out.

Amakicku 1 point 7 months ago

There are 2 reason why a mouse and keyboard are not included in many build guides.

  1. Most guides are about what is inside the box (and the box itself). As stated above by ThoughtA.

  2. A mouse and keyboard are incredibly subjective. I know my personal setup, although gaming orientated, isn't super common.

Monitors kind of have a class of their own and at the same time are also fairly subjective. With that being said, there is still a plethora of monitor guides to help you narrow it down.

Axiomatictor24680 1 point 7 months ago

True, but the guide says enthusiast gaming build guide, so it is targeting a specific audience. Also no computer functions effectively without these key component. Honestly name one successful build that can game without a mouse, keyboard, and monitor?

I believe accessories are more subjective because they are not needed for a properly functioning PC. Like headphones, speakers , and LED lights. Whereas a keyboard and monitor are essentials for the OS UI. In my opinion the guides can be improved if it included these parts in the (box) because it won't convolute the price of peoples final PC builds.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 7 months ago

Nobody is pretending those parts aren't required. As Amakicku said, they are subjective. Necessity does not change how subjective and circumstantial preferences are for those particular parts. There is far more to monitor, mouse, keyboard, and OS selection than raw processing power or other metrics of performance. Personal taste and needs come in to play far more, and suggesting just one or a few of each of these would be doing a disservice to the readers.

It's kind of like if we recommended a desk or a chair with the build. No one desk or chair is going to be acceptable for everyone. People have different spatial and ergonomic needs, along with a host of preferences. We aren't going to suggest something just to tick a checkbox off.

Trying to make the build cheaper than it is.

Also, that's not remotely true. We would never try to pull the wool over our users' heads. They are the lifeblood of the site. Besides, that would be an extremely silly and ineffectual way to do so.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

It appears you're contradicting yourself. You seem to be saying the cost for a better cooler or larger SSD is across the board not worth it. However, you're also saying it's worthwhile to drop an extra $100+ on the Founders Edition, even though it still uses a blower style cooler. Is that really $100+ better performance? That's a subjective thing, but I would disagree strongly.

Additionally, if the PSUs selected are already great, I would definitely say more SSD capacity is by far more worthwhile than unnecessarily increasing PSU quality.

RileyMclinn 2 points 7 months ago

Lol are you crazy Dan?

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 8 months ago

Of course there are cards with better coolers. There is something better in every category on this and nearly every list out there. At a certain point though, a budget needs to be set, and criteria needs to be decided for what is prioritized in terms of quality.

The PSU is already hidden behind a PSU shroud. You'll find that in most decent semi-modular PSUs, the fixed cables are ones you're going to use anyway, such as the 24-pin and PCI-E power connectors. Modularity on those is pointless, unless you plan on custom sleeving.

The SSD capacity was already addressed in the initial description. Everyone's storage needs differ. It's very easy for a lot of people to fill up a 240GB SSD. And of course, it's very difficult for others to do so. Saying "this is is going to be fine for everyone and your choice is trash" is untrue and unhelpful.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

but still, it's nice to consider the options around.

Absolutely. I love when people bring up alternative and, depending on circumstances, potentially better options on the guides.

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor 11W - 91W
CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler 5W - 10W
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 17W - 70W
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 11W - 11W
Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Corsair Force LE 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card 45W - 180W
Total: 95W - 392W