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Great Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're running an Intel i5-7500. Any modern i5 will perform admirably for nearly all gaming needs. The i5-7500 includes a stock cooler, so 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary. Since we aren't overclocking our CPU, the stock cooler will be sufficient in keeping temperatures acceptable.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for B250 chipsets and 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build. The motherboards are also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

Memory

Memory needs are slowly but constantly increasing, and we want to stay ahead of the curve. To this end we're using a parametric filter to choose a 16GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications at the best price. The filter will only select 2x8GB kits, allowing us to leave room for extra DIMMs for future expansion.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 480GB of space and a minimum of 2TB 7200RPM mechanical storage. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market and an absolute powerhouse. The GTX 1070 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like Battlefield 4 (and hopefully the upcoming Battlefield 1) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of Mordor. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1070 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

The filter also avoids video cards that are considered "mini" length, as those will not cool as effectively or quietly, and the small savings to be had with them isn't really worth it with this budget.

You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason.

Case

The build will be housed in the Deepcool DUKASE WHV2 mid tower. The DUKASE WHV2 features 1 USB 2.0 and 1 USB 3.0 front panel and has room for video cards of any length. It includes a PSU shroud to hide unsightly cables, two 5.25" external bays, plenty of bays for storage drives, and it has a cool channel specifically for installing an LED strip. There are also plenty of cable management holes.

If you're interested, there's also a black version of the case.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of a five well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Bronze certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 316W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU £159.00 FREE £159.00 Amazon UK Buy
Motherboard £58.20 £58.20 Ebuyer Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
£120.99 £120.99 Ebuyer Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 480GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
£114.98 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime £114.98 Amazon UK Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 3 Gb/s, SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
£54.95 FREE £54.95 Amazon UK Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070
  • Length: 224mm - 403mm
£369.95 £369.95 Aria PC Buy
Case
Power Supply £59.99 £5.48 £65.47 Scan.co.uk Buy
Other
Base Total: £938.06
Shipping: £5.48
Total: £943.54
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

GoTeamRed 12 points 9 months ago

I can't wait to see the AMD Ryzen build guides in March!

ThoughtA staff submitter 6 points 9 months ago

:)

Namnguyen 5 points 8 months ago

how about the build with 1080 ti in march?

scubadan 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

no really I can't wait.

Tearitup79 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

When does this release?

Namnguyen 2 points 8 months ago

march

Mr.Doe 2 points 8 months ago

When does what release?

Tearitup79 1 Build -3 points 8 months ago

Ryzen lol that's irrelevant now

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GoTeamRed 1 point 7 months ago

Heh good point, I almost forgot about the Ryzen 5 processors!

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mdsmichigan 3 Builds 3 points 9 months ago

Description says 6500 instead of 7500 under CPU cooling. Glad to see these being updated!

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 9 months ago

Thank you!

F4RStormwolf 1 point 8 months ago

What do you think of the 7600? I might use that for a build of my own. Also, if you only need 316 watts. Why not use a 350 watt power-supply?

mdsmichigan 3 Builds 6 points 8 months ago

First Question: 7600 vs 7500

i5 Base Clock (GHz) Turbo Clock (GHz) Performance Compared to 7500 Price Price Compared to 7500
7400 3.0 3.5 -10% $188.75 @ OutletPC -3.861$
7500 3.4 3.8 N/A $196.33 @ OutletPC N/A
7600 3.5 3.9 +9% $216.99 @ SuperBiiz +10.523%
7600K 3.8 4.2 +19% Non-Overclocked +31% Overclocked $238.75 @ OutletPC +21.06%

Above is a quick comparison table for reference, using reputable UserBenchmark for performance and PCPartpicker for pricing information.
Note: pricing subject to change due to: location availability, shipping fees, coupons, sales, your crazy uncle who has used a spare, etc.

Looking at the table the 7600 and 7600kNon-OC both appear to be the same value as the 7500, this is noted by their performance being linearly related to their price. If you have the extra cash and you find that you would benefit from the extra GHz then I would recommend it. But if this is a web-browsing, low-load home server or you only play Goat Simulator or CS:GO, then the extra 20$-40$ would be much better spent on a better power supply or a steak dinner.

One thing to note is the value of the 7600k when it comes to overclocking. Userbenchmark reports an average 31% improvement at only a 20% increase in cost. While 31% is a very large difference the price is only the base cost of the processor! This does not include the extra 30$ to 130$ you would need to spend on a cooler, and the extra 40$-100$ on a z270 chipset to support overclocking. I wouldn't recommend overclocking to anyone who is not an enthusiast, I know several people who have gotten k series chips and never touched their frequency or even worse: they lost the silicon lottery and got a chip that would not overclock in the slightest. But if you're interested and the cash is there I would recommend posting your build to Parts List Opinions Wanted for very useful feedback so you aren't doing this.

Second Question: 350W PSU for Build Rated at 310W

For the Love that is everything please do not get a power supply within that close of its rating! You can risk system failure and permanent damage if you accidentally add a fan that likes to suck too much voltage. Imagine this: for an extra 20$ (remember what I said up above) you could've saved potentially 700$ because the cheap value power supply drew more current than it could handle, blew up, and took out your mobo, cpu, gpu, ssds, hdds, and even usb flash drives with it. Also, even if you get a 500W PSU make sure it's a reputable brand and check reviews. Again do not risk destroying everything for a couple dollars. The staff was kind enough to list a great selection of great value and reliable power supplies, if you decide not to pick what they've selected I would highly recommend searching a potential power supply on jonnyguru.com as their reviews are regarded as highly reputable.

mdsmichigan 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Correction: 7600 has a max turbo of 4.1Ghz not 3.9Ghz!
List of intel 7th gen i5s here with a detailed comparison of the mainstream ones here.

zenithphantom 1 point 8 months ago

Would you stick with the listed psu or would you recommend something else?

mdsmichigan 3 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

The listed PSUs are what I would recommend if you're planning something similar to this.

RobsterL 3 points 8 months ago

Sorry if this is a stupid question and i'm just blind, but where/what is the cooling on this baby?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

It's not a stupid question. The CPU comes with a cooler stock.

Namnguyen 2 points 9 months ago

Updated to Kaby Lake edition!

thank you

fizzygswag 2 points 8 months ago

Theres no possibility of that i5 bottlenecking the GPU, correct? And probably a stupid question, but if I cant get an Ethernet cable, I'm going to need a wireless chip, correct? If so what would you recommend?

Thinking of making this build myself.

akaclarky 1 point 8 months ago

I'd also like to know about the bottlenecking issue if anyone can advise? I planned to get a i5-7600 and a GTX1070 but bottleneck calculators suggest that the CPU isn't good enough and will create a bottleneck.

amthatasplogstik 2 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Everything will bottleneck at some point, but a 7600 should be able to keep up with your GTX 1070 in most situations.

akaclarky 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks for your reply, really torn between the 1060 and 1070...

amthatasplogstik 2 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

If you're not gonna play a bunch of demanding games then I think the 1060 would be the better choice.

7cardcha 0 points 8 months ago

You mean the RX480

MrDez 1 point 8 months ago

I'm new to this and sorry for the question but what is bottleneck(ing)?

akaclarky 2 points 8 months ago

'A bottleneck is, simply put, the slowest part of your system. A bottleneck is the point in the system (computers, in this instance) where data is being held back. It is the component which is working at 100% and still cannot keep up with the maximum potential of the other components. Sometimes bottlenecks are not a bad thing.'

http://www.overclock.net/t/1085522/bottlenecks-explained-revised-10-26-2012

The above link has a pretty in-depth explanation of bottlenecks.

MrDez 1 point 8 months ago

Thank you :D

akaclarky 2 points 8 months ago

No worries dude!

MrDez 1 point 8 months ago

I didn't think of that myself, I'd help but I'm new to this so I'll leave it to the experienced. Sorry bud

ten8yp 3 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

THIS is a FANTASTIC mid level budget build!!! Love the case, love the parts choices, really everything about it is fantastic for the budget level its in. WELL DONE ThoughtA!!!

Mr.Doe 2 points 8 months ago

Is there any other case that can fit all of these parts?

astrogabba 1 point 8 months ago

i would like to know as well, what about the Aero 500 ?

BeardedOranges 1 point 8 months ago

Well if you put those parts in then search for a case on the website it will tell you if it is too small.

zenithphantom 2 points 8 months ago

So I'm basing my build heavily on this but I'm not completely sure that the case is big enough to handle all of it. If it turns out that the case cant handle the added fans and stuff what cases would you recommend? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZykDTH

BeardedOranges 2 points 8 months ago

Idk if it helps but I have about the same build and was going to get this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6d98TW/phanteks-case-phec416pswag

BeardedOranges 1 point 8 months ago

Sorry for the second comment. In the picture it is gray, but in real life it is more of a dark gray.

yungjagr 1 point 8 months ago

Why no 7600k? Just wondering, I'm very inexperienced

Gamers_Squad 2 points 8 months ago

I've never gamed on a pc before and have always been a console gamer. Should I switch to becoming a pc gamer, and if I do, should I buy this pc?

bingy 1 point 7 months ago

yes and yes but it is more interresting if you build your own (you can still base it of this build), then you can choose things you think is more important for you.

LoreS 2 points 7 months ago

Hi all, my first post here so please go easy on me :)

I've recently been very into the idea of building my own PC. And after a lot of research/deliberation, I've selected this build. I've made a FEW changes due to availability in Hong Kong (where I live):

Changes: - Ripjaws V Series memory (2666) to Kingston 2400MHZ DDR4 - Sandisk 480GB SSD to Kingston 480GB - Toshiba 2TB HDD to WD 2TB HDD - Seasonic power supply to Anten 520uM

Background: 1) I'm a SUPER casual gamer. I currently use a MSI GP60 2PE Leopard laptop and it suits all my needs (upgraded to Samsung SSD). It's amazingly fast (even after 2 years) but the ethernet port is broken. 2) I literally only play Hearthstone, Warcraft III TFT Custom Games, and CS:GO sometimes (yes I know this hardly counts as gaming) 3) I do want to build a PC to learn about the process and have a kick-*** future-proof PC to use as well (saved up for this)

(Very dumb) Questions: - With my background, would GTX 1060 suit my needs much better than the 1070? - Do my above changes really make a big difference (downgrade)? A vendor suggested those changes as they have no availability for the original parts - I know I'm missing thermal paste, DVD-Rom, Windows 10 OS, in the list, but do I need a sound card and wifi adapter as well?! - Any other general feedback would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thank you all so much :)

Cuzi12 2 points 7 months ago

Doesn't that HDD have like a 30% failure rate.

eric123chan 2 points 7 months ago

Sorry if this has been asked before but I noticed that the Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H only supports DDR4-2133 / 2400 RAM yet you're getting DDR4-2666 RAM. Will this cause compatibility issues?

summer_storm 2 points 7 months ago

Can someone please explain me how's it possible to use an HDD and SDD at the same time?

cantfind 2 points 7 months ago

You install you OS, games and programs on the SSD and save your pictures, music and movies on the HDD.

andrew323 2 points 7 months ago

can this build run h1z1 and bf1 at max settings? i'm a noob and will be building my first pc so i apologize for the nooby question lol thanks in advance :D

infernaledgar 2 points 7 months ago

hi, i builed this computer, but i cant figure out how to use all 16gb of ram, i cant change it more than 1400v in BIOS can anyone help

C01IN01 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Did you read the manual for the motherboard? Most of the time when you have four RAM slots and you only are going to use 2 of the slots you need to put them in a specific slot in order for the computer to utilize all the RAM you have. The manual for the Motherboard should have it. (Sry for not being able to tell you which specific ones to put it in I don't use this Motherboard)

C01IN01 1 Build 2 points 7 months ago

For the power I would recommend Rosewill 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Px9TW/rosewill-power-supply-photon550) mainly do to it being Fully-Modular and it supplys more wattage (in case you need to plug some power heavy device or something) for only $0.99 more.

SeargentSven 2 points 7 months ago

What type of monitor should I be looking for? Is it basically just preference?

Osaid202 1 point 9 months ago

Why don't we go with a better MOBO like 170 or 270 at the same price?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 9 months ago

Heya, I'm not sure whether you mean H270 or Z270, but either way, those are going to be more expensive in most regions.

As for any 100-series motherboards, I don't want to recommend a motherboard that won't work out of the box. It's not an unreasonable option for someone to purchase though, if they're willing to work with a BIOS upgrade or can confirm the motherboard won't need one.

Osaid202 1 point 9 months ago

I meant the z270. Anyway I see prices as low as 130$ even in Canada and it is included in the excellent gaming build which is made by manirelli. Am I missing something?

Also I will post a similar question on your enthusiast gaming build guide.

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 9 months ago

That's not the same price though.

Osaid202 1 point 9 months ago

Well, not the same but it is 10 CAD difference (b250=120$, z270=130$). While in the US, b250 is cheaper and the difference is huge.

TheJayYo 5 points 9 months ago

Well the advantage of a Z270 mobo is it supports overclocking unlocked 'k' CPUs like the i5-7600k. Since this CPU is not overclockable to begin with, the main advantage of a Z270 won't be used.

Namnguyen 2 points 9 months ago

the prices depends on the currency and where you live.

Osaid202 1 point 9 months ago

You're right I checked the prices in the US and it is a 40 US dollar difference while in Canada b250 is more expensive that's why it is only 10 CAD cheaper.

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Osaid202 1 point 9 months ago

Thats is right in the US

thelsmonster 1 point 8 months ago

I have a parts list that uses a z270 motherboard, a 7600k, 16 gigs of RAM, a 1070, and a little less storage that costs just about the same.

FLAME3443 1 point 9 months ago

If you were going to overclock the CPU, what 3rd party cooler would you recommend?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 9 months ago

You may want to start with the Excellent Gaming Build instead. This one doesn't include an OC-friendly MB/CPU.

thelsmonster 1 point 8 months ago

If you were to use a 7600k I recommend the noctua NH-D15, the Corsair h 105, or the be quiet Pure Rock Slim 35.1

Rikitik 1 point 9 months ago

Hey, guys just wanted to ask something. I really like this pc but I think in 1 year time I would have to upgrade it so is the case big enough to fit in new stuff or would I have to take out the old parts and can any of you suggest me a good cable management cable stuff. Thanks.

Rikitik 1 point 9 months ago

I have a budget of around 3000gbp or 3741.60 US Dollar. I am looking for good computer wich i can streaming while playing GTA 5 on good settings but i want to save some money for the monitor.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

Start with the Enthusiast Gaming Build and change out the CPU for a 7700K.

Rikitik 1 point 9 months ago

I Heard about the new AMD people say it's better and costs less would that do the trick

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

It might. We won't know until next month.

Rikitik 1 point 9 months ago

yeah ok il wait with my old one

kazip55 1 point 8 months ago

Yep it may be good for video editing but it -5% worse for gaming.

KinFresh 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

Yo thanks for making this now i can just base $1000 builds of this

soule33 1 point 9 months ago

Excellent parts selections but i have some questions. If i was going to use the psu recommended here for about 3 years minimum and around 8-9 discontinuous operating hours a day. Do you think this psu will last that long since its bronze rated mediocre build quality or would have to swap this out for a good quality gold rated psu ?

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 9 months ago

That should be fine. Please note that the efficiency rating does not mean really mean much regarding quality or longevity.

WaldoTheRanger 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

so, why update these right before the new hor-Ryzen? aren't you just going to need to update them again?

they are all good guides still, but i'm slightly confused.

ThoughtA staff submitter 0 points 9 months ago

Ryzen isn't going to be available for over a week. We'd already gone too long without an update. In this case, waiting an extra week wasn't justified by Ryzen being released soon. This especially applies to this guide and ones at lower price points, which aren't likely to use a $329 CPU no matter the performance.

WaldoTheRanger 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

Ok. that makes sense. thank you.

raisean 1 point 9 months ago

is there any benchmarks for this build

Sneaky_Turtle_ud 1 point 8 months ago

if u google benchmarks for the GPU you should get some reasonably accurate benchmarks

Kingboy233 1 point 9 months ago

Hey, will this be updated shortly (ADM stuff going on) And what OS aswell as monitor do you recommend? Best quality etc. Also is there any tutorial on how to build this? Oh and this build looks hot af btw.

c_henderson6724 1 point 9 months ago

Probably a stupid question but why do you need two storages. Can you just have one or the other, or can you possibly just get a 2 Tb ssd etc?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 9 months ago

Cost.

You can choose just one, but if you go with a single drive, you're gonna end up with a situation where you can pick only 2 of the following:

  1. Reasonable cost
  2. Reasonble speed
  3. Reasonable capacity

1 & 2 means a smaller SSD. 1 & 3 means a large mechanical drive. 2 & 3 means an extremely expensive SSD.

c_henderson6724 1 point 9 months ago

Thanks ill just pay the extra money to get the two listed

raisean 1 point 8 months ago

ssds are expesive and harddrives are slower so a little bit of both is great

Orfsports 1 point 9 months ago

Hey I'm really new to building gaming PC's and I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm trying to start off with a prebuilt and go from there. I was just wondering if this build would be able to run ARK Survival Evolved and ARK Survival of the Fittest. Thanks

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

It'll handle anything currently available, ARK included.

Orfsports 1 point 8 months ago

Do you know what settings I'll have to use in order to get 60fps?

raisean 1 point 8 months ago

ark isn't a challenge for this build it will run way more than 60 fps in max setting

Orfsports 1 point 8 months ago

Good to know. Thank you

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Here's one person's settings. Otherwise the High preset will do it.

Orfsports 1 point 8 months ago

Do you know if I need both storages or can I remove one?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Taking out a storage device is an option. I'd suggest keeping the SSD if you do; that'll avoid the hassle of migrating or reinstalling the OS should you add an HDD later. Reducing drive sizes is also possible. Removing the HDD and replacing the SSD with a 120GB model save about the same amount of money. Going with a 1TB HDD rather than 2TB nets another ~$15. My best suggestion, however, is a 240GB/1TB combo.

Jellyfish2k16 1 point 9 months ago

So I started working on buying this PC before the case got updated and it said that the previous case had a problem with blocking some drive bays out with the GTX 1070. Will this be a problem or can I keep the case I've already bought? If needed i have a screenshot of the previous part list before it was updated.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Do you have the Eclipse P400s from Revision 7? Cards longer than about 11" will require you to take out the lower cage. There are plenty of 1070s short enough that you can leave the cage in place.

Skimby 1 point 8 months ago

Does the case come with fans?

raisean 1 point 8 months ago

yes

atcolem 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Why a Micro-ATX for a Mid-Tower?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

It saves money without really cutting much out.

OneCellJoe 1 point 8 months ago

Is there some sort of video or in-depth description on how to build this or anything similar?

DeanChillmaid 1 point 8 months ago

I would also like to know, or any tips for building it, I've ordered most of these parts, just have a different case (the one from the excellent build) a different SSD and an added wireless t link card

Mr.Doe 1 point 8 months ago

What case do you have?

Fazza 1 point 8 months ago

why a micro ATX motherboard??????

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

It saves some money without really losing much.

Sowryn 1 point 8 months ago

What other SSD's would you recommend for this build? The one listed is currently out of stock and ships in about 2 months. Looking for something that would hopefully be similar while also in stock.

Sowryn 1 point 8 months ago

UPDATE: I went ahead and ordered a slightly better SSD that was labeled as compatible with this current build. My question now is whether this case comes with a place for the SSD or whether a mounting bracket is required as a separate purchase?

.blank 1 point 8 months ago

It says it has 3 SSD slots.

Criss16 1 point 8 months ago

PCIe SSD

patx73 1 point 8 months ago

How do you get your operating system, is it possible to buy it Digital version ?

Thanks.

Sikam 1 point 8 months ago

this is actually the best ''buget'' gaming beast

DUBTHEGREAT1 1 point 8 months ago

Is the Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor good for editing?

R3DL1G3RZ3R0 1 point 8 months ago

Weeeeeheeew nice

AlluM56 1 point 8 months ago

Just want to ask if you ran into any problems with that MOBO and CPU combination? I'm thinking about buying i5-7500 with Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H, but I have heard there could be problems with the BIOS. So does this work without any problems or no?

Maverick19 1 point 8 months ago

I was wondering how would I be able to connect to the wifi with your build ? Why don't you have an optical drive ?

markpjr 1 point 8 months ago

Wouldn't you still need to buy an operating system on top of all this? Which would add about another $100.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 8 months ago

Please don't spam the same comment across every guide.

Many people have access to differently priced or even free operating systems through a university program, and people's OS needs/desires differ in general, even if the majority do end up using WIndows.

We don't want to assume what everyone's operating system situation is, and the scope of these guides are contained to just the box and what's inside.

markpjr 1 point 8 months ago

Sorry my bad I was just trying to get an answer asap. Thanks for the answer. I was also wondering for the OSs that are offered on this site do the come with disk or as a usb drive?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

You can get it either way. Full versions come on USB or via download, OEM editions on DVD.

markpjr 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks, is it better to get OEM editions or the normal edition when building a computer from scratch and not having a pc prior to this one and I do not have room for and optical drive.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

Full version's ideal for portability reasons, and the cost difference isn't that great for Home. That's my 2 cents, anyway.

indefinitism 1 point 8 months ago

dope build

Silent_Legend 1 point 8 months ago

i need some help with my first build because i want to build it but ive been thinking about cooling the parts with case fans but i cant find any information about an easy method to power and control any fans i would like to put in my case. i dont know where i could look for support because i dont want to get the parts and build it and then realize that i need cooling and have no idea how to set it up. please someone reply. also great build :) +1

Mr.Doe 1 point 8 months ago

Is there any other type of ram I can use??? I can't seem to find any store that would be able to ship the G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory to France. And if anyone knows where I could get this particular ram shipped to France, that would help a lot.

Thanks!

Mr.Doe 1 point 8 months ago

Would this build be good for a beginner?

Dan_Butler 1 point 8 months ago

As a first time build, how difficult would this be to build?

Soulofnowhere 1 point 8 months ago

Thanks for the list! Really helped me get my bearings on building another PC. Any advice on how to avoid a jet engine when I build it?

technowarp 1 point 8 months ago

The case said it can hold graphics cards 390mm and the one in this build is larger

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

Would you mind linking which graphics card is showing for you? I'd be very surpised to see any cards that are 390mm long at all.

vemilov 1 point 8 months ago

Will the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO be enough to cool the i5-7500 or should I go for something else.

gruskada 1 point 7 months ago

The fan that comes with the i5-7500 is enough, really. I replaced mine with a Cryorig M9i, though, mostly because I didn't like the way the stock fan connected to the motherboard. Works great, especially for $20.

I've heard the EVO can be a pain to install, but is otherwise good.

KevinLevrone 1 point 8 months ago

Would this still be okay with the ASUS RX 480 4GB Dual OC on sale for $225 now?

deathbat6916 1 point 8 months ago

Prepare for CPU limitations in games like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided that would be easily negated with a 7600K :)

AnoMVP164G 1 point 8 months ago

I would spend the extra 20 to 30 dollars for an aftermarket cooler, but this build is great! :)

Mr.Doe 1 point 8 months ago

cooler?

unmovingcastle 1 point 8 months ago

Sorry I am a pc noob but what is B250 chipset? We can only use that type of chipset for i5 7th generation? BTW for storage part it should be "we're using"

Fontec 1 point 8 months ago

Hello!

I am looking to build my first PC, and after browsing the site for a bit I decided this one would suffice my needs. I just had a few questions, would this be easy to put together for a first timer, is there any guides that would help me put this together?

This can run most games correct, is this on low settings for most games or?

The memory/storage bit has me slightly worried, will I be able to have a moderate amount (~50) of games downloaded onto my computer?

Do you have any monitor suggestions?

Finally, my budget ($2,000) is more than what this costs, is there anything you could recommend upgrading?

Thanks for your time and this guide, I recently got my first job a few months ago and have always wanted to play a ton of games that have come out the past ~5 years!! Sorry if any of these questions are uneducated/a nuisance.

RobsterL 1 point 8 months ago

Personally if you are looking to game up the memory and definitely DEFINITELY up the graphics card and if you still have money left then well i'm open for donations. (just kidding its your money)

Cyanogen0017 1 point 8 months ago

You could possibly get away with a 1060 6GB, since this is just for gaming and that card is pretty good for the price

MrFonsie 1 point 8 months ago

This build is pretty solid !

mskrool 1 point 8 months ago

Any ideas which monitor should I go with keeping the budget option? I'm a bit concerned about 4K, because I don't know if I actually need it over full hd. Maybe some advice on keyboard, muse and speakers?

mcrazzy13 1 point 8 months ago

wheres the operating system?

infernaledgar 1 point 8 months ago

Hello i was wondering which fan and how many fan should i buy

daniel.t 1 point 8 months ago

Cpu Cooler?

MrDez 1 point 8 months ago

I'm new to the pc master race and I have a question, if we were to overclock would you guys suggest getting a better CPU cooler?

gruskada 1 point 7 months ago

You would need a different processor (one with a "K" at the end, i.e. i5-7600K) and motherboard to overclock. The K processors don't actually come with a cooler.

CloudBomber 1 point 8 months ago

ugh that graphics card. You would be far better off getting an AiB RX 480 8G and using the £100+ price difference to get an i5 7600k and an aftermarket cooler. The RX 480 has approximately the same performance for far less cost. Also a Z270P chipset motherboard is far newer and probably much more future proof

daphee 1 point 8 months ago

The RX 480 is more on the level of the 1060. The 1070 is worth the extra 150$ if you have the money.

CloudBomber 1 point 8 months ago

Yeah that's mb I thought it was a 1060 lmao.

simaczysko 1 point 8 months ago

Hi. I bought it and built it. When I press restart it works fine. wheni click power off it turns off. But then when Inpress turn-on button,it turns on, then goes off. 3 seconds later it "turns on" then turns off. please help

coolermaster1 1 point 8 months ago

nice build bro

coolermaster1 1 point 8 months ago

nice build

Criss16 1 point 8 months ago

Swap the Sata interface SSD for a PCIe one and it shall be better, even if it's a 250GB one, you could host the main software(s) on it, like the OS and the software(s) you use the most or that one or two game(s) you play the most. Obviously if you have the money get the 1TB one, you'll be able to host all your softwares, games and many more in that case. Oh btw, the reason I'm recommending PCIe over the Sata one is because the latest Sata interface, Sata 3 is slower than the new, 3rd generation of PCIe interface and even much slower than NVMe interface. And as you should know ,the faster the communications are done, the faster your computer will read and write information, which means loading software and games faster, and download a few bytes much faster from the internet or ethernet

CoffeeUp 1 point 8 months ago

Hi I'm going to build this for my sons birthday, with a few mods: (compiling parts now :)) closer to the 1200 version of this by boyscout I think. Windows 10: sorry for the newb question: but any basic tips on installing with no bloat/crapware? Or is that more of an issue with off shelf systems. Second: any extra cables etc you'd reco having on hand? Does Samsung SSD come with needed cables or does motherboard? I'm going with Samsung Evo 500 Gb SSD to start/ then add on a 1TB SSD later.

gruskada 1 point 7 months ago

Windows 10 does come with some things you don't need, but it's usually other parties that add the bloatware.

The Samsung 850 2.5 inch SSD doesn't come with any cables, unfortunately. Your motherboard may have an extra SATA cable, and your power supply should have at least three SATA power connections. If you get the M.2 version of the SSD (if you motherboard supports it and has a spare screw), you wouldn't need anything.

I have a million extra cables on hand an never use them...

l3-4571 1 point 8 months ago

I am from Chile and my question is... I will have energy problems (like burned motherboard or other things) if i buy this build?

LeChowed 1 point 8 months ago

Hello. I am a first time builder, but my friends have been helping me out to the best of their ability and this is my go to build with some tweaks. My question is: should I swap out the processor with an i7-6700k (4.0- 4.2) and add the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler to match? I'm planning to use this build to run the new Mass Effect, but I want to run it on 4k settings if at all possible. I don't have a tight budget I need to stick to.

pawniix 1 point 8 months ago

i have no clue what any the parts do, but all i want to know can this run new games like gta 5, battlefield 1, on consistent 60fps 1080p, and future games. and also i don't care about the cosmetics/appearance of my pc, so if there is any cheaper case you can recommend?

ePiCPanCake69 1 point 8 months ago

For people now visiting this build and might want to complete it in March 2017, I would definitely recommend waiting until April 11th, 2017, when the AMD Ryzen 5 CPU's come out, and get the Ryzen 5 1500X instead of the i5-7500. It has a higher clock speed, and 4 cores, the same, and 8 threads which is great. In my opinion its a better processor, and worth the wait for around or at the same price. Just a tip.

cantfind 1 point 7 months ago

From what I've seen, AMD's hyper-threading is not really helping performance.. more often than not it's better to turn it off.

Not sure how the 1500X would do compared with the 7500 in gaming seeing how 7600k is about as good as 1800x for gaming. Also, there were problems with DDR4 bandwidth on the 3xx chipset if I recall correctly.

Salamandier 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Very good budgeting

DucksAteMyBagel 1 point 8 months ago

How many Frames will this get me on Kahoot competitive mode?

Voelepater 1 point 8 months ago

This the first time for me to build my own pc, is this pc easy to build and worth it for my first try? I never build one before so I want to be sure.

mbwilliams85 1 point 8 months ago

I'm going to order this build. I already have a power supply I would use. It's EVGA 600 110BQ. Wondering if there would be any compatability issues. Thanks.

AlkenSho 1 point 8 months ago

why could you get an after market cooler if you are using the b250? Is there any benefit?

kiLLerRIGs 1 point 8 months ago

This is agreat gaming build, and just over 1000$. I think you just saved my friend from getting a worse build from another place for 1200$ Thanks ;-)

AndrewIsFabulous 1 point 8 months ago

I would love this! Its around $1000! *Canadian dollar "No its not! haha" $1800

Ragster 1 point 8 months ago

why is there no cooling? should there be no cooling?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

Heya, the CPU comes with a stock cooler.

ShepP61 1 point 8 months ago

Does it include windows 10 or does that need to be added?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 8 months ago

You'll need to get an OS, yes.

astrogabba 1 point 7 months ago

if it can be of any help, if you don't feel like buying or hacking it, if you are going to university, Microsoft should be giving you free software like Windows 10 Education.

FreekNeedsHelp 1 point 8 months ago

I just have a question can it run arma 3 great

shreder75 1 point 8 months ago

This build seems like just what I'm looking for! I may borrow from its design heavily when I decide to do my own build.

Ardavan 1 point 8 months ago

You shouldn't use the 1070 founder edition. for the price, get an evga ftw or an msi or asus. Also, if you are gaming on 1080p, a 1060 works fine.

Muggerteeth 1 point 8 months ago

What is a good keyboard/mouse/headset/monitor to compliment this build?

astrogabba 1 point 7 months ago

don't know about the other periferals, but for the monitor i'd choose an ultrawide.

austpt 1 point 7 months ago

could you use BitFenix Prodigy M Midnight Black MicroATX Mini Tower Case in this build?

GaminHunter 1 point 7 months ago

Does this build give you around 60 or more fps for every game?

cantfind 1 point 7 months ago

For an additional 30 EUR, I've managed to build a spec which uses 1080 instead of 1070:

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BrFCvV Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BrFCvV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€195.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: ASRock B250 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€96.53 @ Mindfactory) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€129.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.04 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card (€518.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case (€49.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: XFX XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€49.30 @ Mindfactory) Total: €1090.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-29 18:03 CEST+0200

trixster 0 points 8 months ago

Wouldn't you be safer spending a few more dollars on a 650 or 750 watt PSU?

FluxxGaming 0 points 7 months ago

bottleneck af

Skryptonyte -2 points 9 months ago

You could make this cheaper by removing the LED strips, settling for SanDisk SSD PLUS 240GB Solid State Drive (SDSSDA-120G-G26), just for the OS and maybe a few applications ( assuming the rest will be stored on the HDD ) and ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ( may need a BIOS update considering it is a kaby lake there) and goind for 8GB RAM, which is enough for gaming. This probably saves around 150$-$200.

vagabond139 5 Builds 3 points 9 months ago

settling for SanDisk SSD PLUS 240GB Solid State Drive (SDSSDA-120G-G26)

They used a parameteric filter. That SSD would cost more.

ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ( may need a BIOS update considering it is a kaby lake there)

Why would they recommend something that may not be compatible out of the box?

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raisean 0 points 8 months ago

it actually is

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raisean 1 point 8 months ago

you're right i wasnt really thinking of the current tittles

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deathbat6916 1 point 8 months ago

Plus, there would be stuttering galore if you run web browsers in the background in Deus Ex: Mankind Divided as well as other games.

rishigarg123 -8 points 9 months ago

I made a btter pc than this with i7 6700 for 1023 dollars

.blank 8 points 9 months ago

Should share it instead of bragging about it, haha. I think we'd all love to save a few dollars, if you don't mind sharing.

ajstnizzle 3 points 9 months ago

He's right.

_TheSilverSoul_ 2 points 9 months ago

He is lying

MeIs2Noob 1 point 9 months ago

sure he might of, without an ssd or a gpu.

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

I just love when people make a account, leave a stupid comment, and then disappear.

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.blank 1 point 8 months ago

It can connect to Ethernet, but not Wifi. Ethernet cables cost nothing, though, so its not a big deal.

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manirelli staff 8 Builds 3 points 9 months ago

I've been hitting nearly 100% memory usage on 8GB of memory at work. Time for an upgrade.

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DogBiscuits 1 Build 4 points 9 months ago

Literally just gained 42% more performance, thanks OVALTINE!

pegotico 2 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

I recently stopped recommending only 8GB for all gaming builds

Exactly.. makes little sense to get 8gb if budget permits to get 16gb. Worst case scenario 1X8gb so its easy to upgrade with an identical dimm. NOw ram is extremely expensive, I bought 16gb of 2400 ddr4 for 59 bucks and now its over 100..

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pegotico 2 Builds 1 point 9 months ago

:)

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cantfind 2 points 7 months ago

processor more powerful than i5 7500 - unnecessary for gaming, put more money into the graphics card.

By the way, if you don't want to close your applications when opening a game - 16GB is not that much of an overkill, Firefox alone uses about 4GB on my computer ATM.

I managed to build a system for about the same cost with a GTX 1080:

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BrFCvV Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BrFCvV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€195.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Motherboard: ASRock B250 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€96.53 @ Mindfactory) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€129.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.04 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card (€518.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case (€49.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: XFX XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€49.30 @ Mindfactory) Total: €1090.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-29 18:03 CEST+0200

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