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Guide

Enthusiast AMD Gaming/Streaming Build

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're using the new AMD Ryzen 5 3600X. Since it is overclockable the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 has been added to the list. A cooler of this stature will allow a high overclock without overheating or becoming noisy.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Enthusiast Intel Gaming Build Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX X570 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build, and it will automatically update with the best priced option as prices change.

The X570 chipset was selected rather than the B450 chipset in order to bypass any BIOS update issues that would occur when combining a new Ryzen 3000 series (Zen 2) CPU with a B450 chipset. However, you are welcome to explore those options as well, but be forewarned that because it uses an older chipset, this motherboard may require a BIOS update before it will be compatible with the CPU. The manufacturer may have already updated the B450 BIOS before sending it to retailers, but if not, many motherboards cannot be updated without using an older CPU to do so.

If the motherboard is not updated, the PC is unlikely to boot at all with the new CPU. In this case, you would need to temporarily use an older CPU to update the motherboard BIOS before using a new CPU with it. The CPUs that could do this update would be the Ryzen 1000 CPUs, Ryzen 2000 APUs, and Ryzen 2000 CPUs.

If you stick with the X570 chipset on original part list provided, you will not have to deal with this process.

Memory

For our memory, the parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-3200 and faster speeds, as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 500GB of space. We have also added a parametric filter for a 3TB mechanical drive for mass storage, such as extra games and videos. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to add or remove capacity to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market. The RTX 2080 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like PUBG) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Apex Legends. It'll also handle Fortnite with zero issues. For those interested in VR, this card will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

For streaming, the newly-updated NVENC encoding will offload the task to the GPU with a minimal performance hit using OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) while providing image quality similar to or better than x264 Fast quality.

Case

All of our components are housed in the Cooler Master MasterCase H500 case. This case features a clean design and a tempered glass window. It includes 2x front panel USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports, 2x front panel USB 2.0 ports, 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, a PSU shroud, and a number of cable management holes and tie-offs to help your build look cleaner. It can also fit full-sized video cards.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

AMD Version

Here is the Intel version of our Enthusiast Gaming Guide..

Compatibility: No issues or incompatibilities found.

Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor
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£203.99
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£1.99
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£205.98
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CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
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£71.88
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£71.88
Where
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Motherboard MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

From parametric filter: Form Factor: ATX; Chipset: AMD X570; Memory Slots: 4 - 16

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£139.97
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£139.97
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Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

From parametric filter: Speed: DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333, DDR4-3400, DDR4-3466, DDR4-3600; Type: 288-pin DIMM; Modules: 2 x 8GB; Heat Spreader: Yes

Base
£54.99
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£3.49
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£58.48
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Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 500 GB - 12000 GB; Type: SSD; Form Factor: M.2-2280; Interface: M.2 (M)

Base
£55.98
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£55.98
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Storage Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

From parametric filter: Capacity: 3000 GB - 10000 GB; Type: 7200RPM; Form Factor: 3.5"; Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s

Base
£59.32
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£3.49
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£62.81
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Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card

From parametric filter: Chipset: GeForce RTX 2080

Base
£599.98
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£3.49
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£603.47
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Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case
Base
£99.98
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FREE
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£99.98
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Power Supply EVGA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

From parametric selection: Show

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£100.42
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£100.42
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Base Total: £1386.51
Shipping: £12.46
Total: £1398.97
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Comments

  • 3 months ago
  • 5 points

Question: why does this build have the 2080 gpu, yet the higher Magnificent build has the 2070 Super gpu?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

It’s a 2080 super now, they may have fixed it but it’s a 2080 super.

  • 3 months ago
  • 5 points

According to a lot of reviewers in the tech industry, you can easily save a few bucks by running the 3600 instead of the 3600x. The 3600x is just a slightly higher clocked 3600, with no appreciable difference in performance. They also run the same amount of cores and are both, because its AMD, unlocked CPUs.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

For this build, I think you should have a 3700x instead and get an AIO watercooler for about the same price. I think the 3600x would bottleneck the GPU.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The 3600X is equivalent to an 8700K, so I don't think there is a big bottleneck. It is also worth noting that the Dark Rock Pro 4 is one of the best cooling solutions on the market for the price. While an H100x will outperform it, the Dark Rock Pro 4 is easier to install, and comes with a nice screwdriver you can use on the rest of the system

  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

I agree, it also would be better to change x570 mobo to much cheaper b450 like msi b450 Tomahawk or b450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. They would easily support both r5 3600x and r7 3700x because they have one of the best VRMs out there for the B450 and even cheap- and middle-range x470 and x570 boards while being $50 cheaper than the one in this build. The saved money now can be spent on a better processor (r7 3700x instead of r5 3600x).

And in order to make this build even better for streaming and rendering, you can change rtx 2080 to rx5700xt while saving even more money (yes, rx5700xt instead of rtx2080! don't just take my words, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY2fbAzFiUE

Now, all of the saved money (video card) can be spent on a better SSD (Samsung nvme m.2), or more RAM (32GB), or water cooling for the CPU instead of air cooling, or whole bunch of rgb fans in the case, or a better PSU... (well, you've got the idea)

... or just put this saved money on games!!!

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

You would need an older processor to flash the bios and judging by some of the comments I see on this website, that might be too much to ask. Also the extra money spent on the “update” CPU would cancel out on the money saved by getting a b450. With the teeny bit of money you could possibly save by getting a cheaper b450 (after the “update” cpu cost) paying the extra money for an x570 would be worth it to future proof the system.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Both the B450 Tomahawk and Pro Carbon have bios flash on the boards so no older cpu needed.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

when I would put a B450 in as the motherboard with a r5 3600x or the r7 3700x it wouldn't work

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  • 3 months ago
  • 0 points

I agree. I wouldn't go above the 2070 Super on the 3600X. It won't make a huge difference but the 3600X will absolutely hold back the 2080. From all the reviews I've seen, AMD has all but maxed out headroom on the 3000 series chips so there is very little chance of getting much in the way of an overclock. That said, I would at least try out the stock cooler before throwing $80+ at cooling a chip that may not need it. I do think you will regret the memory choice here. Ryzen thrives on ram speed and you can easily get 16 gig of 3600 ram for $99. That will probably buy you 10-30 fps across the board for only $30 more. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N3W1T21/ As for the video card, I kina agree with sam_alpys. Unless ray tracing is what you really want, the RX5700XT is going to give you comparable fps to the 2070 Super but your trading ray tracing for a big price savings. In another 2 years, I think there will be enough games out there that take advantage of RTX to justify paying more for the feature but right now I just don't see it myself. Just my 2 cents.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi! I've been looking at trying to replicate this build for my own PC for a while now, but after viewing your and alpys's comments, I thought about changing around some of the parts to see how they would fit to try and save some dollars. I'm kinda new to PC building so I'm trying to get my bearings a bit.

I would like to ask, what do you think of this re-worked version of the original build? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ShayButta/saved/T2pJbv

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

How about this (click link first) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/36cgdX

You could change for 2070 super trio and get more for the rendering boost, but more expensive. You could also go more cheaper with the ram and CPU cooler they recommend.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Checked out your build and I only see two issues. the B450 board doesn't support the 3000 series out of the box, so you will need an earlier chip to install to get it to post so you can update the bios to support it, other than that it should be found. also the fine print on that board says that the second M.2 slot disables the rest of your PCI express slots. Not a big deal if you don't need them but if you wanted to install a second M.2 and a new ethernet card you would be sol.

On a side note, your MOBO is only 50 less than the one I'm using and that's after a 20 mail-in rebait on your side. If ya have an old AMD chip laying around and you don't mind the M.2 issue that's fine but I think it's worth the money.

One last thing, Samsung does have some of the best and fastest drives on the market but if you do your research, other brands have the same speed for a lesser price. It's hard because it doesn't list it here. you have to go to new egg and pull up a list of what you're looking for and start digging into each page to see what the read and write speeds are but it can be done and it can save you some cash.

Keep up the good work.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Y

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I've also been looking to build an AMD machine in around the $1,400 range.

Here's my first attempt: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Choice3/saved/chVykL

Any changes you would make? Would be using for some gaming (nothing too serious / competitive), photo / video editing and maybe a mild media server.

Thanks!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi! I'm not sure if you have already purchased your parts but if not, I would reccomend getting the Sapphire 5700 XT Pulse, it's a 2 fan card instead of a blower style and as a result will run cooler, quieter and faster. it isn't stock as of right now but if you're willing to wait I think you'll be much happier. It's usually around $415.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey! Thanks for the reply.

Yea- I've had that feedback from several others as well. I'm going to avoid the single fan blower style and keep an eye out for a Sapphire Pulse or PowerColor Red Devil.

This is my updated list. What do you think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QJWVq4

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Looks great to me! Just make sure to do a look over of the parts more in depth to make sure they are truly what you are wanting as buyers remorse is the worst (I would know unfortunately). Other than that it's a very solid build and i think you'll be pretty happy with it.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

MSI mech version would work aswell

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Seems this case is sold out everywhere. Any recommended replacements?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I'll be updating the guide shortly with a new case. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Can some one pls help me I know it’s been asked before but I’m new and have no idea. Would this build be a good build for me I want to run steam, stream my pod cast I’m going to be doing with MTG and my boys and stuff and prolly some computer designing etc. any help would greatly be appreciated. And is this everything to get going beside keyboard monitor etc and windows 10.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

First time builder. If people want to eval my part list, thatd be appreciated. The only thing i changed from the params was to use the 2070 super and only use a big SSD instead of ssd plus slow drive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelsRduck/saved/RWctpg

Other than that, my main wonder is how to add bluetooth to this thing without a dongle. Thanks

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Also, i went with the board that had wifi included. Is there a better way to get wifi on a PC?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Getting ready to purchase the parts. Though now, the cooler is sold out everywhere.. do u guys know if it will re up soon enough or if it'll be out for months? Thanks. Im trying to strictly follow this guide except a 2070 super and only ssds.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Current estimate looks to be 7-14 days til restock. You could swap for similar performance/price https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15

  • 2 months ago
  • 0 points

God, these PCPP build guides are a joke.

5 3600X, when you can get the regular 3600 and OC it.

Dark Rock Pro 4 overkill for a fricking 3600x.

X570, need I say more? PCI-E 4.0 isn't being used currently, so X570 doesn't offer anything

GQ EVGA PSU, god no, these run hot and loud, you'd could've got better in this 1500$ build.

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Based on benchmarks and reviews from a number of sites, the different chips are binned differently and will have significantly different amounts of headroom for OC.

The Dark Rock Pro 4 is extremely quiet, will handle the heat from the overclock, and look good doing it. Could you save some money for something louder and less aesthetically pleasing? sure.

The selection of X570 was thoroughly explained in the build guide description.

Not sure where you are getting your info on the PSU but it is extremely well reviewed. Check out Jonnyguru's thoughts on the 850w using the same platform: https://www.jonnyguru.com/blog/2015/11/09/evga-850-gq-850w-power-supply/6/ or PC Perspective https://pcper.com/2016/02/evga-750w-gq-power-supply-review/5/#ftoc-heading-6

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

A Dark Rock 4 (Non-Pro) would do just as well since this is only a 3600x, hell you could even get away with using the $40 Hyper 212 black edition if you really wanted too. Also the use of a 2080 in this build is just weird, yeah it works fine but at 1080p gaming a 2070 will be just fine for 144fps in pretty much any title at high-ultra settings.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I agree with everything you said in this except the X570 part. Getting an X570 board would help future proof the system as well as the Dark Rock Pro 4, BUT the choice on the motherboard could have been better.

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  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Please make your own post on the part list opinions wanted forum.

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/forum/2-part-list-opinions-wanted/

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