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x570 Tuf gaming for $195 or Steel Legend for $159

dk10438

4 days ago

Here's my build. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dk10438/saved/#view=prWhgs trying to decide on the Tuf for $195 or save a little money and get the Steel legend for $159.

I've read that the GPU's get pretty close to touching the heat sink on the Steel Legend? And will obstruct half of the fan on the Steel Legend? Which is the better board and is the Tuf 35 dollars more?

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  • 4 days ago
  • 2 points

VRM wise the TUF is better.

However, for an 3600 or even 3700X/3800X it wouldn't make a big difference which boards you buy, especially with the first solution (R3600)

Also if you don't OC, VRM efficiency should be good on both boards.

I've read that the GPU's get pretty close to touching the heat sink on the Steel Legend? And will obstruct half of the fan on the Steel Legend?

Well if that's really the case (depending the GPU you have in mind to install) then just get another board.

However, this guy uses the same board with a larger GPU and i don't think he does face any problems.

You can even message him if you wanna to.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/R9gwrH

Same board and GPU like you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/92P323

It seems to run fine.

The whole list with Completed Builds Using ASRock X570 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard

As for the build...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $19.79 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $64.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $95.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $499.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $113.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $84.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1397.72
Mail-in rebates -$65.00
Total $1332.72
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 09:56 EST-0500
  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

thanks, maybe I'm just overthinking this....

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Yep just relax, you may have more important things to think about :)

Like that EVGA G5 PSU, that seems to be worse than a EVGA G3 or G2 unit. ;)

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-750-g5-power-supply,6344.html

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

IDK, 5000+ reviews on amazon and no bad reviews on newegg, seems like it'd be a solid product...

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

Of course it will work and it will certainly not blow up on you.

There are two facts to consider though...

First:

It uses an ACRF topology and the G5 meant to be an high end unit and from the moment the competition uses superior designs, this topology is only suitable for budget PSUs, since it requires fewer components of lower cost.

And secondly:

The transient response is one of the most important factors in a PSU's performance since it depicts its operation under real-life conditions where the loads are dynamic and not static. In such scenarios, the G5 cannot keep the +12V deviations within 1%, and the 3.3V rail's transient response is terrible.

And looking at the cost of that 750 PSU that costs normally $110 (without the mail in rebate offer that you will pay in advance anyway)...first off, your build doesn't need a 750 Watt PSU and with that being said, more reasonable would be to get a lower wattage PSU but with better internal components like...

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/2HbwrH,bqVD4D,WxL48d,6Y66Mp/

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/sMM323,y88H99/

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/DQx9TW,CZvZxr/

  • 3 days ago
  • 2 points

You can't buy PSU's based on consumer reviews, unless you're going to run them at very light load. Even then I'd want at least a reputable name and OEM. What you really want is a teardown and load review, like Tom's, anandtech, TheFPSReview, or other noted reviewers. The G5 isn't garbage, but there's no reason to buy it when there are better PSU's at similar or even lower prices.

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the great responses. Ironically, UPS just dropped of the G5 but I'm seriously thinking about returning it and going to BB to get a Corsair RM750. So let me ask you guys this, is the criticism that the G5 is priced like a premium power supply but has the internals of a lesser power supply, therefore I should consider other PSU's in the 110 price range? Because I'm only paying a net of 80 bucks. What sort of problems arise from inability of the PSU to keep deviations within 1%? I consider this to be a modest build so what I really want to know is the G5 @ $80 good enough or should I spend the extra $30 for a RM750?

FWIW, one of the reasons that I chose the 750W PSU is because it has 2x 4+4 connectors and the most (all?) of the x570 boards have an 8 pin and 4 pin connector for power. I have read that the 8 pin is adequate but didn't want to take any chances. I basically just want to build this for my kid and let him enjoy it and not have to troubleshoot problems in the future.

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.98 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $413.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.89 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit $119.04 @ HP
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1355.85
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $1325.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 11:14 EST-0500

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/QVn8TW,Ft6qqs/

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

Someone on here had an issue running a EVO m.2 on a steel legend, not sure if it is isolated issue or not. https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/332857-installing-m2-nvme-stops-booting

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