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First build and replaces a pre-built that was a little long in the tooth. No RGB case fans (yet) and looking at a Hyper 212 but, it mainly runs dark anyhow except for that outer ring on the stock cooler which is a little annoying - come on MSI.

So happy I opted for the Nitro+ and have not had a single issue with it, the motherboard or CPU. Only a minor issue with the original PSU, which fortuitously saved me from myself as it was a poor original selection.

MSI Bios was a bit of a concern for a while but patience won the day and while MSI did eventually bring a ABBA Agesa, I opted for the Stilts version which gives me more confidence. Waiting on 1.0.0.4 and all that will bring.

Re-used my trusty 850 Evo as a dedicated documents drive and the new 860 will be more than useful for client work and as a library drive for games, renders and some VM's I use in my personal time.

Overall, I'm very happy with how it's turned out - it's pretty balanced (?) despite perhaps spending a little more than planned.

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  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

did you do a bios flash or did u already have a cpu to upgrade the bios to work with the 3000 series?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

This mobo has bios flashback feature. So its bios can be updated without a cpu.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Hi - As ChuErD correctly states, the board has a flashback feature which means you don't even need to have a CPU installed when flashing the bios - https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=iTkXunUAriE

It was very easy to do and while I did/do see an awful lot of comments online about challenges with this, I've concluded that they simply hadn't read the instructions properly or at all.

Went with Stilts Bios found here - https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1733304-agesa-fw-stack-patched-bioses-3rd-gen.html

  • 16 days ago
  • 1 point

But can't you just download the BIOS for 3rd gen Ryzen from MSI website?

  • 16 days ago
  • 1 point

Of course you can - I went with Stilts version as it offered an alternative and one I felt more comfortable with at the time and because MSI were being a little less than forthcoming - in both the provision of their OEM version but most importantly, in communicating with their customers.

Over the intervening weeks I'd heard many good things about the revised MSI version and have changed to that - I am now awaiting 1.0.0.4 from MSI which brings approx 100 improvements, I read BUT I am happy with how my system is running, the temps, the boosts etc etc and have had a pretty great experience to date.

  • 15 days ago
  • 1 point

Thank you, I am really new to this stuff and I want to build my own PC for Christmas. So basically Stilts version is from MSI official but it is like...customized? I am choosing between MSI Tomahawk b450 MAX vs MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC. The last one has wifi and Bluetooth but I believe a good wifi adapter for like 50€ will do better. (Asus PCE-AC55BT B1 is getting great reviews)

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

Hi - Given how you've considered this, I think you're right - the Tomahawk Max board is the route to go - recent release, longer life cycle and non-lite bios. That latter arrangement will only exist for so long with MSI and the future of the Carbon Pro is unknown - it is bound to be shorter and tellingly, there is a lack of a Max variant - could be it is just as I said in this comment - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/tjTBD3#cx3332466

For the BIOS - Tomahawk Max just got AGESA 1.0.0.4 Final so suggest you go with the MSI BIOS version (not sure Stilt will look at tackling it anyhow) but in either case, worth taking a look at forums etc to see what the reviews say. B450 Carbon Pro is yet to get this but scheduled before end of month (November 19).

Either way, good luck with your build - ask as many questions as you need to of everyone in this community and others, subscribe to some of the TechTubers out there - (some of the smaller ones give more insight for us novices) ... and take a second opinion every time ... even with what I've said :-)

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Such a clean build! Been parting out a build with this same CPU, mobo and case. +1

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Thank you very much - I appreciate that. I'd watched hours of videos, read article after article trying to find the right balance and well, I am pretty happy with it. I hope you are too when you press that power switch for the first time on your new PC.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

This is the first build that i see that isnt a white case theme

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I won't lie, I thought about it initially, but opted against it ... very happy I did, but perhaps something for the future .... ;-)

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Does the mother board overclock well

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Overclock on Ryzen 3000, I am told brings less than expected returns but in the main I tend to keep it stock anyhow. I get 4.4Ghz boost from the processor with recent bios updates and paired with the IPC improvements the processor offers, I cannot complain with stock at all. My understanding is the board will give you a good PBO boost and will, if you're willing to dabble, give you about the same as any other board out there on air.

It certainly runs cool with my setup (34C (cpu, mos & sys) idle with 2 intakes at 300 rpm, exhaust at 600 & cpu at 25% up to 60C with ambient 18) and lots of reviews rate the mobo very highly for it's VRM's and solid feature-set. As far as B450 goes, it's very close to early X470 standards and some would argue, better than some of the lower-end X570's - potentially most from the same manufacturer :-P

I have a feeling the Carbon Pro is one of those "we did too good" kind of boards and only the 16MB bios chip is a negative but in truth the simpler (old skool) bios is much simpler to deal with. I find it solid and capable - found a table on reddit prior to Ryzen 3000 launch and it indicated the capabilities of all boards available at the time - and well I went from there. I was going to link it but you'll probably be doing lots of research and clearly encounter all sorts of feedback, issues etc ... this said, I've not had one problem from day one with booting or stability - I just didn't shout about it working - most just shout when it doesn't and that drowns out all the positives.

FYI - I got mine to run my 3700x with 2 x 8GB of Patriot 3733mhz memory and IF at 1868 no bother at all but opted to drop 32gb 3200 on it for work purposes instead. I know you asked about Overclocking but maybe some of this is also of use to you.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Did you have to flash the bios and if so can you tell me how?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Yes I did and followed the process cited above - https://pcpartpicker.com/b/tjTBD3#cx3329884

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Great build and set up!

  • 28 days ago
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Thank you very much - I appreciate the feedback although, I'm sure not as much as your daughter appreciates that stunning setup you put together for her - nicely done.

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

Nice build. What are the temperatures when gaming?

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

Thank you - very happy with it. I hope these are of some use ...

The Division 2 @ 2560 x 1440 Ultra Settings (75MHz) Benchmark with 19.10.1 drivers - so it can be replicated.

CPU - AMD Ryzen Balanced Plan with Cool & Quiet Enabled ~ GPU bound so seems logical to me.

GPU - Primary (Performance Bios) ~ Default Everything.

Results - Score : 6069 - FPS - 68 // GPU - 98% // CPU - 22%

Ambient - 18c

CPU : Max 71.8c - Avg 52.3 RAM : Max 36.5c GPU : Max 70.0c // Mem - Max 66.0c // Hot Spot - Max 92.0c (Average 54.9c)

Fan profiles : 2 intakes at 300 rpm, exhaust at 600 & CPU at 25% up to 60c with ambient 18c - cpu fan curve 75% by 70c.

Edited a thousand times to format in a way that might make it easier to comprehend. Hope I got it right :-)

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

Nice!

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

A little more insight but this time into the graphics card.

I just tried Trixx and set it to 85% quality with Radeon Sharpening. Could not see a visual difference between original 2560 x 1440 and the suggested 2176 x 1224 - both Ultra ... but ...

Results - Score : 7434 - FPS - 83 // GPU - 97% // CPU - 21%

Wow ... temps were a little cooler too - each previously shared - by a degree or two .

  • 20 days ago
  • 1 point

Not bad, not bad at all!

  • 19 days ago
  • 1 point

Hey, is that Meshify C the version with the clear glass or the other one ?

  • 18 days ago
  • 1 point

Hello. It's the tinted one (FD-CA-MESH-C-BKO-TG). Being a little stealth, once I'd taken the vanity shots, the lights went out.