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This is a multi-purpose PC made to replace my six year old i7 4790K build. Using this for gaming, photo editing, video, writing, etc. Over-bought to help keep me going for another 5-6 years without too many changes.

Built and running and finally under my desk (this is not a show piece). Need to get the CPU idle temps down from 36C, but games like Borderlands 3 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider on "ultra everything" (not ray tracing) give me about 60C at full load 1920x1080 & 100FPS+.

Still have some work to do on it, and may swap out the HSF for something beefier. I still have a ways to go before I feel comfortable with water cooling...

Just for cost comparison, in 1992 I spent close to $3000 on a Gateway 2000 Intel i486DX2-66 PC and 14" monitor (my first real PC). In 2020's US dollars, it would cost me around $5600, so I think I did okay. At least that's what I tell myself. :P

Edit: CPU Idle temps are hanging around 40C, but it never goes over 80C at full load. Added two fans to the newly vented top of the case. This decreased ALL other reported temps to where I like them, but the CPU still idles at 40C. The HSF may just not have enough thermal compound in the right places on the CPU.

Edit 2: I moved the Noctua NH-U12S to the 3700 build, installed a Noctua D15 with a good layer of Kryonaut on the 3900x, and now see consistent 37C at idle. Good enough without serious water cooling.

Edit 3: Need to update photos of the new config with the D15 cooler.

Edit 4: Photos added. Apologies for the garbage image quality. I'm not a studio photographer. :P

Edit 5: Added a couple more photos from the inside-front, just to show how tight a fit the D15 cooler is. The front 140mm fan is actually touching the top of the RAM, and has 1/4" of space from the side panel (top in the photo). Fits, though, and works great.

Edit 6: I caved and bought a glass side panel for the case. I received a credit from Newegg and applied it, so it was barely more expensive than if I'd bought it with the case. And now I have a backup metal side panel. The glass looks nice, and now I'll probably have to make some tasteful indirect LED lighting inside so I can see more of the PC. In time...

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

At least nowadays processors last much longer than they used to! A friend of mine ran his Q9400 until 2019

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

A very nice & cool 12 core build w/ fast components. Well done

I'm just curious why you put it in such a large case w/ the right third of it blocked of. Please explain that.

My parents bought one of those GW 2000 PCs, the mid-tier, $2,000 version and it lasted them 10 years. Thanks for the memories.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! And yeah, I'm old-ish. :P

The answer to your question is that: – I didn't research the case enough. If I'd seen that it was even bigger than my current case, I'd have bought a smaller model. Fractal Design makes some awesome cases, though, so it's still a win. – I intended to move a bunch of HDDs over from my old PC. May still do that, but the board only has 4 SATA ports, three of which are already used. Two SDDs and one blu-ray drive. – I felt that the air flow would be better with that space left open. You can see in the pic that I pulled the expansion slot covers off, and I can feel the air flow through that area, which is good. – No water cooling. May still do that, eventually. I have plenty of room for it! - Having that panel block off the open space looks better to me than a big empty space. Subject to change...

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  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Why the primo board? I don't have to say there are cheaper options for your use case.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Lots of people seem to like asking this question, no matter what the cost of the item... But it's not a $700 board, and not a $100 board.

My answer is Performance. Excellent power management. Upgadeabilty. And in the case of this board, a solid reputation unlike almost all of the other boards I researched. It's worth it to me to not have to RMA it right out of the box.

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks for the compliment, and the advice. In all I'm pretty satisfied with the parts list and how it all came together, although I could use a few more SATA ports! :P

I've been running through reviews and the NH-D15 seems to be at the top of most of them even against the BRP4. My only hesitance is that it really irks me to have spent almost as much on a lesser Noctua HSF as the D15 costs after buying the second fan for it. I may do it anyway and keep the U12S for something else, maybe a smaller build to run Linux on. I'll have to think a lot about that.

I haven't tried OC'ing anything yet, but apart from the idle temps, everything runs very stable and cool. I am not impressed with the "Frozr" M.2 cooling (thermal pads, yeesh!), but with decent case cooling it seems to be doing well enough.

If you're going for the MSI Unify board, be aware that (at least on mine) the chipset fan was set in the BIOS to kick in at 50c. I changed the fan curve in the BIOS for all of my fans, including that one. Anyway this board seems very stable, but I haven't really pushed it too hard yet. The Samsung NVME is super fast, and the wifi that comes with it definitely does the trick (got 325Mbps easily on our service). If you're going for any RGB, there are tons of fan headers, about half of which are designed for Corsair RGB, FWIW. Obviously I kept this system mostly black.

Anyway good luck with your build, and post it here when it's up. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Edit: One more note. It seems to be a common issue with either this MSI board or all of them in general that it defaults to 2200 MHz or so on the RAM (I think), and definitely won't boot with two sticks until you change that. I set the A-XMP profile to the 3600 the RAM supports, added the second stick, and it booted up fine at that point.

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

My point was that multiple sticks would not work until that change is made.

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