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$200 Christmas/black Friday build/upgrade

by jav26122

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CPU Clock Rate

3.73GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

50.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

80.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.15GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

450MHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

38.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

55.0° C

Description

I've been using the same pc with integrated graphics for the past 7 years, and it was time to upgrade... The goal was to be as cheap as possible, but still get decent performance for light gaming etc. THIS is a true budget build. Everything was bought black Friday and then I got it for Christmas and then it was built. The case and hard drives were re-used from my old computer. The old motherboard and things I might turn into a htpc but that's a project for another time.

Sorry about the cables... This case is old and it doesn't really have any features to aid in cable management... That's the best I could do, it looks better than before. Also, this is my first build so suggestions are welcome.

Having a dedicated graphics card for the first time was awesome. Don't hate on the GT 630. This thing takes everything I throw at it and it's working perfectly fine for light gaming with no problems. I used to get ~15 fps on league of legends with very low settings, and now I get 100 fps on very high. Used to get ~20 fps on minecraft with low render distance and low settings, now I get ~300 with everything maxed. Sometimes I can get over 500 fps in minecraft. Battlefield 4 I can get a steady 30-60 fps on medium settings, good enough for me. Here you can compare the Ice Storm scores from my old computer to my new one: http://www.3dmark.com/compare/is/1228776/is/1348364 I get ~1000 on firestrike and ~5000 on cloud gate in case anyone wants to know.

New speccy screenshots: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7gfCkumvFHhNGw1bFhIWldNcEU&usp=sharing

Old computer speccy screenshots: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7gfCkumvFHhYlhiOGtWY3J4VWs&usp=sharing

Components:

CPU - It was a cheap quad-core, lots better than my old 2.5GHz duel-core. My only problem is that it can get pretty hot with the stock heatsink and fan.

Motherboard - It was cheap, everything worked well. An extra ram slot free for upgrading.

Memory - Who could pass up this deal... I mean, come on. I'm loving 8gb of ram coming from a computer with only 2gb. I can actually multitask instead of doing only one thing at a time. It's nice.

Video card - I wanted something cheap but with good performance, so this was the middle ground. It works great and my expectations were surpassed. Got the core clock up to 1050 MHz and memory clock to 2000 MHz with the included GPU tweak program. For a fan less gpu it's stayed pretty cool, and 100% silent.

A new video card will probably be a future upgrade, and I can put this gt 630 in my other computer which is similar to the one that this replaced. Maybe a SSD but I don't find that necessary. I'm probably going to get a aftermarket CPU cooler because the stock one isn't very good at all.

EDIT: Speccy had wrong temps... GPU clock speed is higher now and my CPU is now overclocked at 104x35 which keeps me around 3.6GHz.

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Apach3 3 Builds 3 points 47 months ago

even if it is an older case, your cable management allows for airflow, which is what matters most when it comes to the heart of the issue.

very curious that you chose a GT630 with a locked FM2 Athlon instead of an APU, but i guess it's personal preference. i know from personal experience just how surprisingly good an APU is, assuming you know how to properly take advantage of it.

EDIT: i just saw your temperatures, and i'm pretty sure that's a deadly temperature for any modern AMD part... that, or you have a faulty temperature sensor (which wouldn't be too unusual). try checking your temperature from the socket sensor, and if it's within a similar range, replace the stock cooler immediately with something other than stock.

twaelbroeck 1 point 47 months ago

Way too hot! Recheck those temps. Even if you just grab a cheap aftermarket cooler ( http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr910htx3g1) your temps should become much more acceptable.

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

Yeah thats why I said I'm probably going to get an aftermarket cpu cooler. I don't think cable management will really help with the cpu temps because in this case there's a vent thing that fits over the cpu heatsink. You can see it here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129031 but it's longer than it looks in that picture. Should I just remove that to get better airflow over the cpu? I would deffinently have to remove it to get a taller heatsink anyway. Also if you didn't notice, the psu in this case is mounted on top so it's really a tight reach for some of the cables to begin with. EDIT: I checked the temps in the bios and it seems that the temps stay around 40c. Still not fantastic.

Apach3 3 Builds 1 point 47 months ago

yeah, 40C idle is better, but still not good. yes, i say remove the duct, as it doesn't seem to help matters any, and that should help out at least a little bit. i don't understand what's the point of those ducts anyways.

HK_Rage 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

Glad to see a budget build :)

And don't let anyone talk you down for having a GT630, it's a pretty beastly card for not really being designed for gaming.

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Duelix 1 point 47 months ago

Nice price to performance ratio in this build. What resolution are you using?

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

My screen is 1680x1050 and run most games around 1400 x 800 or somewere around there.

Kratt010 1 point 38 months ago

You serious about 300 fps? On minecraft? Vanilla or modded?

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

Well this is from a while ago when I first started using this pc. Minecraft screenshot

Kratt010 1 point 38 months ago

+1 for using htpc video card

Kratt010 1 point 38 months ago

Ok clap clap* I just didn't believe it because I've never gotten more than 60 on a brand new hp amd a8-5500 with 8gb memory

Kratt010 1 point 38 months ago

Going to use this build for my friend… gave me a budget of 300$ wanted to play bf4 I immediately died of laughter

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 38 months ago

I wouldn't do this build honestly. I actually know a lot more now than I did back when I did this build (unfortunately) There are a lot of things that could have been better. Specifically, the motherboard has no SATA 3 ports. Also, there's no USB 3.o either on this motherboard. I literally just got the cheapest one possible which obviously isn't the best solution.

I would recommend you go with an apu based system because AMD's a10 apus are really good and better than any lower budget graphics card like the 630. If you only need the components in this list, then I would recommend this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.65 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $55.18 @ Newegg
Memory Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $322.81
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-19 15:23 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $179.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.65 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $55.18 @ Newegg
Memory Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $48.98 @ NCIX US
Power Supply Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $34.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $482.77
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-19 15:25 EDT-0400
Muttonsourdough 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

I'm new to building and a little unsure what makes an aftermarket cpu cooler necessary. I know it's typically not a huge expenditure, and I'd much rather spend that and NOT fry anything than risk it and lose, but what about the full build you listed with the AMD A10-7850K cpu requires another cooler?

Also, would your build support a decent graphics card?

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 35 months ago

Well the A10-7850k is a great budget APU so you wouldn't need a graphics card, you would just use the integrated graphics. As for cooling, you probably would want an aftermarket cooler for overclocking but if you aren't going to overclock it really shouldn't be necessary. Also I'm not sure about the accuracy of the temps on my build because I stressed my cpu for 5 minutes right before writing this with AIDA64 and it said that the temps maxed at around 40 degrees celsius so I think speccy might have it wrong.

cheezyguy5 1 point 34 months ago

Bro, dem temps are outrageous, get a new CPU cooler and some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste or you'll make the processor melt.

Otherwise, +1 for the cheapness and realizing you don't need expensive things to play games.

Though, I must ask: would you recommend that GPU?

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

At this point I've come to the conclusion that speccy isn't displaying the correct temperatures... Every other utility including the one specified for my motherboard gave much more reasonable temperatures. I just updated them. Even with it overclocked temperatures look very nice according to the temperature monitoring utility made by BIOSTAR.

RedEyedStranger 1 Build -2 points 47 months ago

How do you get so much Fps in minecraft my build only gets about 200 with everything maxed?? Plz reply

xx116xx 3 Builds 2 points 47 months ago

Honestly, you shouldn't be complaining if you have above like 80 fps with all the settings maxed out. The difference between 200 and 500 is so tiny it does not matter at all.

perk0 4 points 47 months ago

You wont be able to tell the difference between 60 and 200 if you have a 60 Hz monitor.

xx116xx 3 Builds 1 point 47 months ago

True dat...

MrUnknownPerson 1 point 34 months ago

Oh yes, you will. Although the monitor can't display the frames fast enough for it to matter, it still looks slightly better because of the way the eye works, it will seem smoother because the monitor won't ever need to jump frames if it drops or dips speed for any reason.

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

I don't know? I'm using 1.7.2 maybe that has something do to with it.

kingknight 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

Hmm... are you using a 16x texture pack/no resource packs?

RedEyedStranger 1 Build 0 points 47 months ago

I was using 1.7.2 also. have you checked out my build??

jav26122 submitter 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

I'm not sure, but it looks like your build should be out-performing mine. I have v-sync turned off.

RedEyedStranger 1 Build -4 points 47 months ago

How do you get so much Fps in minecraft my build only gets about 200 with everything maxed?? Plz reply

RedEyedStranger 1 Build -4 points 47 months ago

I get 1000 fps with everything on low

B1ueKampfer 1 Build 1 point 47 months ago

lol can you even notice the difference when you have a 1,000+?

RedEyedStranger 1 Build -4 points 47 months ago

200 fps avg on maxed

MAXXHEW 4 Builds 2 points 47 months ago

Sometimes my fps changes a lot on Minecraft depending on what server I play. I've heard that the way MineCraft works on a computer, you can get better fps depending on how much RAM you are using. Also on 1.7.2 we can adjust the max fps in the game menu.