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Thermals:

First thing's first, this amount of power in this small of a case requires patience to figure out the parts, what works with them, and a bit of comfort in allowing things to get hotter than you're probably used to. Easiest thing you can do to reduce heat is go and find a stable offset, right now I just have a quick and dirty -.05v offset and that's it, and it's helped my system dramatically in terms of heat. In terms of idle my CPU depending on the day(I live in Texas, it gets really hot) hovers around 40-41c which is perfectly fine. In daily normal use I'm around 46-50c. Gaming anywhere from 55-75c but usually in the mid 60's, low 70's is the norm depending in the title.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 - Adjusted the build and went with a 3600 over a 3700x for a few reasons. I do hardly anything other than gaming on my PC. I don't stream, I do very little work that a 3600 couldn't do. Given the 3% performance difference, there simply isn't a reason for me to go for the 3700x at an additional $130 in price for that little benefit, plus the temps are cooler.

Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 Cu 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler - This was the game changer. A cooler capable of handling the necessary watts I needed, and a cooler capable of dispersing the heat at a fast enough rate to allow me to utilize my CPU to its full potential. With this, I'm not forced to do any downclocking/undervolting, and under a full gaming load, I'm sitting right around 68-70c, which is right where I want to be, and where I expected to be.

Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard- Amazing build quality, but not the easiest board I've ever worked with. I've used nothing but ASRock boards before, so this was a different beast to me, but overall I'm very pleased with it.

Ram: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3200 - fast, runs at advertised speeds, no issues to report, and it's sexy as hell.

Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive - Easy enough, works great, fast, really affordable option for a huge SSD.

GPU: Radeon VII - fast and relatively quiet, stays pretty cool, overall a solid GPU, albeit an expensive one. I'm looking to replace with a 5700 XT when the partner cards become more available.

Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case - My love, so beautiful, so slim, so sexy. Easy to work with, outside of the back part of the case, that thing is a pain in the *** to get off the first time.

Power Supply - Corsair - SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX - It's a power supply, it works, it's reliable, that's what I want. The cables are stiff as hell and require some bending though to get working in the Node 202 properly.

Case Fans: 2x Noctua - NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan - they keep my GPU cool as a cucumber, well, as cool as it can be.

Monitor: Gigabyte Aorus AD27QD - BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL!!! I've been waiting on a monitor like this for YEARS for AMD. The holy grail of gaming, 1440p, 144hz, IPS, Freesync. It also comes with HDR, it's cute, and provides some benefit, but nothing that I'm overly in need of. For HDR gaming I have my LG C8 in the living room :D

Conclusion:

Overall I'm very happy with my system and everything that I've added to it/put in it. The saved desk space for me is a huge bonus, as I'm fairly OCD and obsess on clutter. Given the amount of power in this case, there is going to be a bit of give and take. It's not reasonable to assume a case of this power is going to perform thermally to what you're used to in a big open air case. There will be heat, it's about learning how to manage that heat. If I could give anyone advice on building in this case it's be patient, you'll run into crashes, errors and tons of frustration at first but it's worth it in the end.

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  • 11 months ago
  • 6 points

Congrats on the first vega ii build in pcpp

  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

Thanks! :D

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi,

How is the monitor reliability so far? is it smooth?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Never had an issue with it. The first one I replaced because of some BLB as a precaution, it wasn't out of the ordinary but I wanted a second one to see if it was noticeably different, it wasn't so honestly a waste of time doing that, but overall it's been amazing. 0 issues with it, couldn't buy a better monitor.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

And what about the graphics card, would you recommend it? I haven't seen many people using it as compared to NVidia cards, also reviews in terms of quality, reliability etc.

  • 11 months ago
  • 4 points

goals

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

:D

  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

That's a cool little powerhouse.

But where's the Radeon VII? You say it's a Vega 64 and looks like a Vega 64.

  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

Haven't taken the pictures yet. Will be updating later today :D

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Great!

I built my system back in May '17 with a GTX 1080 but I sense that if I built it now, the R VII is the GPU I'd want ;D

AMD GPUs tend to age better than Nvidia GPUs as I've noticed, for example when comparing the R9 200 series with the GTX 700 series in many modern games.

16GB HBM2 as well... hmmm... if I load up my modded Skyrim SE packed with 4K textures it really kills my VRAM. I'm sure it won't seem like complete overkill for a future proof gaming PC.

  • 11 months ago
  • 2 points

Uploaded the pics, temps are nice at around 66-68

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Your PC being the size of a console yet this powerful is awesome... I'm still a mid-tower person..

  • 11 months ago
  • 3 points

haha yeah, I love it :D Makes it easy to move back and forth between my computer room & TV room, playing on my 4k LG OLED is pretty breathtaking.

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

How's the acoustics like on that thing

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

I keep my fan profile with my mobo on silent so on normal computing it's fairly inaudible. Gaming time though it cranks up and can get quite noisy, I usually have my headset on though so it never bothers me.

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

Were you able to set your fan curves for the CPU fan in the BIOS? Asking cause I may be getting the same cooler but a B450-I from ASUS.

  • 18 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah there are like 4 options, standard, silent, turbo, full, and then you can manually set them to your specifications. I just use the silent profile b/c on normal use I don't want it very loud.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Why's the rtx 2080 ti on there? Still nice small form factor build. +1

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Mmmmm I must have clicked save on accident. I was tinkering around with the build list on the card yesterday. Thanks for letting me know!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

No prob. I wish I can afford an RTX 2080ti, but that junk costs like $800 lol.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Try $1300 haha, I preordered one but I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it. The buildup has been pretty shaky.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

O cool I wish I had enough money for it. BTW thanks for replying so much!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

NP :D

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm about to do a 1440p 144hz build myself but can't decide between the 2700x or 8700k. Does the 2700x handle it well?

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Handles it really well, no issues to report.

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

I see you have the 2700X running at 70c under load with the C7 Cu. Is that productivity load (like video rendering, etc..) or gaming load?

Curious because down the line I plan on throwing a Ryzen in my home entertainment mITX build that also has a C7 Cu, and I was just assuming I'd be looking at something like a 2600 or 2600E because the 2600X would get too hot while boosting.

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

It depends on the game but I'd say the USUAL temp under gaming load with everything running is around 70c, occasionally fluctuating up a degree or two. I undervolted the cpu by -.1 to hit that though.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

This is exactly the build I am going to make with this case, thanks so much for posting that it is possible to make a powerful mini PC. I am just going to swap GPUs however, to the Mini Zotac 1080ti. :) I just found out that my current GPU would not fit in this case, which is the MSI DUKE 1080ti. I might keep it though however, & use it for testing? I guess? Haha. Oh god, I am hoarding parts now. I have an old AM4 motherboard that I used it still works, and I have a GTX 550 4gb that I use for testing/ booting just in case stuff doesn't boot haha n 2 8gb DDR3 that are lying about that still work haha.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

No problem! Have fun! The biggest problem you'll run into is heat. You'll need to make sure your build is nice and tidy, cables are tied down tight and no airflow restrictions. I'd say gaming my temps with my CPU are sitting between 67-75C. The biggest heat problem is actually the ram in that when I crank it up to 3200mhz it raises the temp in the case by nearly 10 degrees, but at 2666 it stays stable, I'm a bit confused as to why, but /shrug, I'll take a 1-2% hit for a -10C performance bump. The GPU is never really an issue temp wise, usually, mid-60's-70's depending on the demand of the game.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

This build is awesome! I really want to build a PC about this size but I have no clue what I’m doing. My parents are split so I’m constantly going from house to house and I need a PC small enough to go with me, BUT at the same time, I want to be able to game at max settings in 1440p. I have enough money to do this as I have a job, I just don’t know what case to use. I’d like to use a Ryzen 7 2700x and an RTX 2070 and I need a case that is small but can fit these, and still be able to cool them. Do you think the 202 could handle this without issue?

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't see why not as long as you place a few fans in the bay with the card and put a fairly aggressive fan curve on the rig, it should be fine. Do you currently have a Gsync monitor and is that why you're going with a RTX 2070? Just curious b/c the Vega64 is much cheaper for the same performance, and at times better, + you get 3 free games o.O

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the mini review of the Dell S2719DGF. I took a gamble and ordered this monitor from Dell during a decent sale. Haven't received it yet. A couple years ago I had a 25" IPS 1440p Dell and they are top quality. I got sick of waiting for a decent 1440p IPS 144Hz. The constant quality control issues with Acer/Asus/etc monitors made me really cautious.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

No problem, still loving mine, hope you like yours :D

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Dude, very nice! I am impressed.

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks :D

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome build man. I'm actually doing a similar build. However I cannot, for the life of me, find the Cryorig C7 Cu (or the regular variant) for sale at any store. Did Cryorig go tango uniform or something?

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not sure, I got mine online, I know they're pretty rare these days to find and expensive as all hell.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Something like this always happens when I start a new build. I may have to try ordering it from China or something.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

What CPU are you going with and in what case?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Ryzen 7 2700x in a node 202.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice, just be wary of the temps. I recently put a -.025 offset on mine and it's helped wonders for the temps in on my system.

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  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

How is that 600w psu enough for a radeon vii and 2700x?

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

It's plenty, never had a single issue with it. Under a full working load of gaming, 3 streams etc., I'm around 500-515w at the max.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you elaborate on the system crashing when CPU is monitored? What programs did you test? Was it connected to the temeprature monitoring or other parameters? I want to build mine and use NZXT CAM software to control the fans and RGBs.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

So basically any background monitoring software I've used outside of the AMD Ryzen Master or the AMD GPU Software for monitoring purposes has caused instability issues. I've tried HWMonitor, HWInfo, and both caused blue screen crashes. I know it was the software itself, mainly because I noticed there were no crashes for days after I did a full system reinstall. I'd happened to forget to install my monitoring software HWInfo, within 15 minutes of doing that I hard crashed again. Uninstalled the software a month ago, not a crash since. Did some quick searches online and found a few others reporting the same thing.

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

That is indeed strange. I wonder how it would react to CAM and other software which is also used for fan control.

EDIT: I've found the problem and some people have reported that a BIOS update has fixed this. Are you able to verify or at least do you remember if you made a update in the meantime?

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

Happy to report have been running HWInfo since the new bios update and haven't had any crashes since install and that was a week ago so looks like w/e the issue was has been cleared up.

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

are you happy with the monitor?

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, best monitor I've ever owned.