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First pc build
by Kasper0512
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Description

I Built this mostly for gaming and it took me about a month to build after having to save but finally got it done. I know it might come up a little short on HD space but for now it's more than enough and will upgrade when the time comes. Since this is my first build any helpful advice as in something that I could improve on will be greatly appericated. Thanks

Details
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Clock Rate4.5GHz
CPU Temperature While Idle36.0° C
CPU Temperature Under Load76.0° C
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card
GPU Core Clock Rate1.07Ghz
GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate6.01Ghz
GPU Temperature While Idle35.0° C
GPU Temperature Under Load72.0° C
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RyneSmith [7 Builds] 4 points 12 months ago

Build looks good to me, congrats on the first build.

However if it's mostly for gaming I would've gone with the i5 and saved 100 bucks

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 3 points 12 months ago

Thank you. I saw that most people say the i5 is more than enough but i IDK I guess it was more of an impulse purchase than logic.

 
 
RyneSmith [7 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

And that's perfectly fine.. in the end it's your money and how you spend it is up to you

Personally I wish I would've bought a 240/256 SSD right away instead of a 120 but i can always get one later haha

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Very true. I just hope they last me awhile before having to buy another one.

 
 
RyneSmith [7 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

Ya my suggestion would be to buy a 1tb drive for your next purchase and only use the SSDs for programs you want to run faster such as the OS or games

 
 
Jim719 [1 Build] 3 points 12 months ago

Definitely one of the best aesthetically looking builds around. I really like the white/black color contrast, wonder what the R4 in white would look like with those components. I count a total of 8 purchased fans but I don't see them in the case, what/where is fan setup?

I agree with the SLI of 760's vs a higher tier single card. Why chose the EVGA over Gigabyte though?

All in all I am really envious of what you did here

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Lol thank you very much. As for the fans though, I had bought 2 more to setup Push/pull config for the radiator but it doesn't fit. I was thinking about placing the radiator in the front as in intake where it could be setup as a push pull because the hdd cage moves and it says a radiator could be placed their but i'm not sure yet but I also hate to waste 2 sp120s that are just sitting around. I looked at the white r4 and like you I tried to picture it but I thought the titanum or black looked better with my setup although I think it could jave worked. I personaly just liked the EVGA SC a lil better but the GB is a little faster.

 
 
Short_Circuit [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

You've got another unused hard drive slot and big 7200 rpm hard drives are a dime a dozen these days. If storage becomes an issue, I would leave the OS on one SSD and limit the pagefile to maybe 4 gigs.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I just hate how loud the HD are, was my main reason for opting out of getting one at this point

 
 
Short_Circuit [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

With as many case fans as you have going, even if they're quiet, I'm not sure you'll even hear the HD. Besides, if you just use it for backups and non-essential big files like movies, it won't be running all the time.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah it's a matter of time but i'm sure I'll end up putting one in

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Great build, I'm a huge fan of putting 760's in SLI. I love the color coordination in this build :D. 500Gb should be fine for a while, but you are going to eventually need a hard drive. Great overclock, and a perfect motherboard for the job. Fantastic. +1

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Thank you very much.

 
 
gseyffert [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Get out of my head! I'm doing a build almost exactly like this in two days. Except the Arctic White R4, and the blower versions of the 760 instead of the ACX. How's airflow in SLI without the blower version?

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah that's funny because I was thinking about the blower versions to but wasn't sure which was better in SLI. I will tell you that IMO the R4 is lacking in intake airflow which kind of worry's me but so far so good.

 
 
gseyffert [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Ah alright. Good to know. Have you tried removing the HDD caddies? You can mount your SSDs behind the mobo in the R4.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I found that out after I was all done. I think to do it now I would have to remove the Mobo and I really really don't want to do that again. I was thinking about removing it and then just jerry rig mounting it in the holes where the HD cage was but that would look weired.

 
 
gseyffert [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Ah yeah I feel you. Well maybe some day when you have free time and get inspired! Haha. After a quick google search, it seems you're correct; the screw heads for the SSD mounts end up beneath the motherboard.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I'm sure I will. Hell building the computer to me atleast is half the fun so i'm sure i'll do it later, just not after the 1 1/2 hrs I just spent doing it.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

? For anyone. Is it worth putting 16gb of dominator platinum RAM over what I have and 2nd is it worth putting 16gb RAM period.? All I mostly do is Game.

 
 
canders [6 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

Nice build. Just curious, did you think about a 512gb SSD instead of the 2 seperate ones?

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

No acutally, I had bought the 256gb pro with the intention of using it as my OS and some games then buying a HDD for the rest but after realizing what my actual Storage needs were I just bought the 2nd 840 250gb. But If I would have just planned it from the beginning yes I would have just got the 512.

 
 
canders [6 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

Ah. Figured there was a story behind it. Thanks.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

No problem

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Truly close to my build (http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/EmN) except for the PSU and the 760 SLI ;). You could've rotated the pictures though :(. Why did you buy the thermal compound for by the way ? Space wise, would've went with a single 256GB Pro and a 1 to 2TB HDD rather than 2 SSD, more data space for you, and you could've purchased a second 256GB Pro later on and run them in RAID0 for better performance ;). I hope you did not pay that RAM this much though, because that's quite expensive ! Here, these are all my little comments and questions. Great build, good parts, good cable management, especially for a first ;)

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I uploaded it with my phone so I have no idea how to rotate it. I personally don't like or trust mystery paste but thats my opinion haha plus it was only $5 so what the hell I guess. You're right I will probably end up getting a HDD but for now they more then suite my needs. It runs pretty fast now idk if I would RAID I can imagine how much faster it would be though. Yeah I did I was thinking either the regular vengeance or this but I liked the look of the pro better for my build abd it was only $5 more. Thank you by the way and also it won't let me click on your link to look at you're build.

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

So, you removed the thermal paste on the H100i to replace it by the AS5 ? Only 5$ more ? So you really payed this ram 82$ ? O_o, that's expensive, I miss the time the RAM was cheap.. By the way, this RAM, does it look white (on top) or more like gray ?

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah just took a alcohol swab and took the paste on then put the as5 on. Yeah $82 for that price maybe it's magical haha, no but I know it's dirt cheap sometimes others not so much. And it's like a brushed aluminum but when light hit's it, it kinda looks white. I wish I would have seen the kind you got because I think it would have gone better with the look.

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

The AS-5 won't really provide better temps than the default paste but oh well ;). Still hurt to imagine RAM can cost 82$ :/

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

More than likely, but $5 for peace of mind... Might aswell. How much did you pay for your Ram.

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

59.99$ USD so around 64$ CAD.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Thats damn good price

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yep ;)

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I just saw your build, you're right it does BTW nice clean build +1

 
 
stnz [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks ;)

 
 
AH__Banana [1 Build] 0 points 12 months ago

76 degrees for a CPU is really hot, might want to be careful.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 2 points 12 months ago

Yeah thats the hottest it got under prime95 stress it usally is at 68-70 under load but I will thanks!

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Keep in mind that is at 4.5Ghz. Should it ever reach into the 80's then they should definitely scale back the overclock to something like 4.3Ghz or 4.2Ghz.

 
 
AH__Banana [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Overclocked or not, 70+ to be running underload is going to burn it out.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Ohh I was reading alot on it and they were saying that the 4th gen ran in the mid to high 80s on a lot of people's rigs and that it shouldn't go above that or You should worry. Thanks for the heads up. BTW what should it be at?

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

With Haswell, I'd be comfortable running up to 75 degrees, but I wouldn't go past that. That's IMO though. People do run their Haswells at 80 and higher, but doing so can make your CPU die sooner.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks you. I'll defenitly keep an eye on it

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

My point was that because it's running at 4.5Ghz, they can turn down their overclock so it runs under load at 65 or so should they want to.

 
 
Hakumisoso [2 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

That is a prime95 load. in real world intensive apps like games it won't go that high. Source: myself with a 4770k @ 4.5 ghz and same load temp.

 
 
dschutt84 [3 Builds] 0 points 12 months ago

Very nice build!!!

But why 2 different SSD's did you raid them? Also I would have just bought 1 SSD and a 2 tb HDD. You wont see any improvement in gaming with a SSD other then load times which wont be much. Also I would have gone with a 4670k and a single gtx 780 for the same price you paid for.

But anyways a very nice build!!!

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Thank you. The reason I went with 2 cards instead of 1 was because mainly I saw some benchmarks saying that the 2 outperform the 780 at 150 less but I also saw that they say some games have a hard time or aren't at all capable of using SLI but I checked the games I will be playing and they support SLI so for the money I thought it would be best. And for the SSD I just hate the noise of HDs but will probably end up going that route because SSDs are to expensive over 250gb.

 
 
dschutt84 [3 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah the 250 mark is the best price for SSD's right now

 
 
jjwb22101 -2 points 12 months ago

Only thing i have to say is that it probably would have been smarter to get one more powerful GPU instead of two sort of mid-range ones. The GTX 780 comes to mind.

 
 
RyneSmith [7 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

SLI 760 out perform the 780 for about 300 less... seems fine to me

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 2 points 12 months ago

SLI'd 760's outperform even Titans for $500 less. :D That is until you throw them into a 3 monitor 1080p setup, in that case the Titan wins because the 760s run out of frame buffer.

 
 
RyneSmith [7 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

Ya well if he's sticking to one monitor... good :) haha

I personally have the 770 4gb for 3 monitors and will probably SLI in the future

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Exactly xD

 
 
jjwb22101 -2 points 12 months ago

780 performs the same as titan for about $400 less, and it can be expanded to multiple cards at a later date if needed. 760 SLI removes that upgrade path, and they don't look nearly as cool. Also, I have yet to see anything but synthetic benchmarks comparing the 760 SLI and 780, and even there the differences were negligible.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 4 points 12 months ago

2 things. You can still upgrade to 3 way SLI so the upgrade path is not removed although would have to upgrade the PSU and to be honest the EVGA 760 SC and the EVGA 780 SC look practically the same

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 2 points 12 months ago

Good point.

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 2 points 12 months ago

Indeed this is true, but spending $600 right now on a graphics card isn't possible where $500 may be. Plus while the 780s in SLI do perform extremely well, that's a total of around $1300 spent in graphics cards. By the time that you would need to add another 780 (which won't be for another 3 years at least) and SLI then spending $600 on another one would be stupid when you could probably just buy the new Geforce $600 card and get performance right around two 780s in SLI.

Taking two mid-range cards and putting them in SLI will almost always better than getting one high-end card. I don't know why you say that the upgrade path is removed because the upgrade path from SLI 760s is to just replace that SLI with another SLI (Two 960s or whatever they will be). It will be cheaper than adding another 780, and probably perform better.

As for aesthetics, two cards looks better than one, right? It's down to personal preference anyways.

Here are a couple reviews of the SLI 760s vs. a 780:

http://www.techoftomorrow.com/2013/pc/nvidia-gtx-760-2-way-sli-performance-benchmarks-evga-gigabyte/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/07/07/crunching-the-numbers-can-dual-269-nvidia-gtx-760s-outperform-a-999-titan/

As you see, the 760s outperform in pretty much every test.

So, why buy a more expensive SINGLE card when you could get cheaper, better performance that's easily upgraded.

 
 
jjwb22101 2 points 12 months ago

I stand corrected.

 
 
Enlyten [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Haha :P

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Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah I read that 1 higher performing card is usally better than 2 in SLI but for $500 It performs better than the 780 at $150 less

 
 
jjwb22101 1 point 12 months ago

Really? can you link to that? Only thing I've been able to find are synthetic benchmarks, and I've learned not to put much stock in those when the differences are as small as the differences between 760 SLI and 780. And it's not $300 less, only about $120 (760 is $260 each, 780 is $650, and 780 has a bunch of other value adds (quieter and less power consumption, plus the whole awesome looks factor). Would really like to see some real world benchmarks though.

 
 
RyneSmith [7 Builds] 1 point 12 months ago

I correct myself on that price difference. I thought the price was around $800 haha (oops)

However here are some benchmarks on 760 SLI vs 780 benchmarks. Judging by these I correct my statement that the SLI is "better". It barely out performs the 780 for the most part however the 780 costs more so really... I withdraw my previous statement

 
 
impyowner1 3 points 12 months ago

Here you go my friend jjwb22101. Here is a link comparing the GTX 760, 770, and 780 with one card, two card SLI, and three card SLI benchmarks.

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4632/geforce-gtx-700-series-sli-review-geforce-gtx-760770780-in-sli-and-3-way-sli

As you can see, I believe every benchmark SLI 760's beat a single 780. It just basically comes down to budget. For example I couldn't afford a single 780 at the time of building my system but I could afford to buy one 760, and then another one a few weeks later. Without a doubt though, it just comes down to personal preference and that money thing.

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 5 points 12 months ago

Good point. When I built mine if I had the money for the 780 I probably would have gone that route but it was either 2 760's or wait a couple weeks and get the 780, but it's hard to wait while you're trying to game with integreated graphics plus as the majority of benchmarks pointed to the 760's being by far the better value it just made more sense for me atleast.

 
 
impyowner1 1 point 12 months ago

What PSU do you have on the 760's?

 
 
Kasper0512 [Submitter] [1 Build] 1 point 12 months ago

A corsair ax760i